Pastor Calls for Boycott of Houston

Posted on January 21, 2010
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A Pastor in Texas is trying to get people to sign a petition in support of his boycott of the city of Houston. Pastor David Grisham is upset about Houston's new openly gay mayor and a new Planned Parenthood facility there. So far, just four people have signed the petition at BoycottHouston.com. And that includes someone names "Hugh Jass". (Seriously)

According to Grisham, "If you were to do a poll 85 to 90 percent of people in Houston would say they were a Christian. Well how in the world could an openly homosexual mayor get elected?"

What do you think?

As a Christian, would you vote for an openly gay candidate?

And did you sign the boycott Houston petition? (just wondering)

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Todd

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Christopher Fontenot on Sat, January 23, 2010

Matt,

That is, in part, my argument. Houston has the largest church in America. Their pastor does not even mention the word sin so does he preach a different gospel? Thirty to forty thousand people go to that church every week and hear a message that is centered on them instead of Almighty God. There is a sampling of the “80 ti 90%” of Houston who calls themselves Christian. Bad definition.

I know that we cannot elect sinless people into office. But a true Christian would never support abortion, gay marriage, socialism, communism, pedophilia, or pornography of any variety. Homosexuality is deviant even if you believe there is no God and everything got here through evolution. Homosexuality does not even support the notion of survival of the fittest because the species could not perpetuate itself.
Jessica on Mon, January 25, 2010

Christopher-
It’s clear that you have no personal relationship with anyone who is gay, other than that of authoritative judgement.

The general public, both Christians & non-Christians, are beginning to figure out that homosexuality and deviance are not synonomous. I’m sure that we can both agree that there are plenty of deviants in the heterosexual world (both Christians and non-Christians).

It’s time to at least acknowledge that people who are as Christian as you and as educated as you hold a different opinion than you.

Mainline denominations are beginning to ordain “Gay Christians” as pastors. That undertaking has been the result of much research and debate by others who are just as informed and as intelligent as you. Give them and us a little credit.
It’s time to at least acknowledge that there is another line of thinking out there that is DIFFERENT than what you believe, but that it doesn’t make it “unChristian”.
Tim Wright on Mon, January 25, 2010

Hi,

I think want Brandon is saying is that I have no absolutes, everything is relative, and I mean everything. So everything is permitted but not everything in beneficial. So gay, is ok, but not beneficial, but is permitted. I get where you are going with this Brandon. Thanks for the clarity.

Tim
Tim Wright on Mon, January 25, 2010

Jessica,

If shoving a mans penis up another mans anus is NOT perversion, I have no idea what is. Homosexuals are NOT monogamous.

http://www.frc.org/get.cfm?i=IS04C02

Tim
Matthew Rathbun on Mon, January 25, 2010

One cannot say that “Everything is relative” and not cause a space-time continuum disaster (ok maybe one too many Star Trek episodes)

To say “everything is relative” is in itself a definitive statement and a definitive cannot be relative. Therefore “everything” is not relative; some things are definitive.

...just sayin

Jessica,

I can’t speak for Christopher, but I do have several friends that gay and frankly find them very loyal people. Some believe in God and some do not. I agree that their choice of relationships does not indicate that they are deviant. It is however contrary to Biblical principals. But everyone of us live lives that are some level un-Bibical.

However, to use the argument that some denominations have elected to ordain gay leadership does not move me. If we take, even a cursory look at Church history we’re going to find an onslaught of poor choices made by men. This is especially true in the Catholic faith. (I’m non-denominational BTW) We’re all flawed and we’re all proven to mistakes.

I say this in the hopes that I can encourage you, and everyone else, to seek God and the Word when discerning what is correct for your life and not the judgment of men.
Jessica on Mon, January 25, 2010

WOW! Tim-I appreciate your X-rated candor! That really drove the point home. Unfortunately, it didn’t change my opinion.

I would agree that homosexuals tend to be less monogamous than heterosexuals. However, I attribute much of the promiscuity and lack of monogamy that you reference in your link to their inability to be integrated into the Christian life in a way that is honoring to who they are as a person of value.

I look at it this way: The high-drama, sometimes violent, lack of monogamy characteristic present in SOME homosexual relationships (as well as heterosexual) is inevitable in the light of their inability to relate to Jesus and Christians in a way they understand. Face it: If your biggest hope in the world was that your current relationship would never end and that your current partner would never leave or disappoint you (instead of finding your identity and hope in Christ), you’d be pretty wildly dramatic, emotional, impulsive, and reckless at the first sign of trouble too. Thus begins the cycle of promiscuity and loneliness and desperation that is characteristic of many people, gay or straight, who live their life without Christ. And there are bound to be less gays who understand the love of Christ than there are straight people BECAUSE OF THE REJECTION OF CHURCH AND CHRISTIANS, so the statistics will be against gays for a long time to come.

Matthew-I think you and I are very similar, with one small difference. We both agree that men make mistakes & poor choices about who to include and who to exclude in the ordination in mainline denominations. The difference is that you think they are beginning to wrong a right, and I think they are beginning to right a wrong. That’s ok. We’re allowed to have different opinions on this. I appreciate your ability to understand that there are at least 2 sides to this issue and that there is room for all in this. (I am non-denominational as well).

Please be encouraged that I DO continually seek God and the Word on my position on this. I am currently participating in an exercise with my church where we read the entire New Testament in 30 days. It allows a 30,000 foot view of the New Testament, which is a nice change of perspective. As I proceed, I am more certain than ever that God does not want His church to be divided by issues.

In order to alleviate that, we will need to weather a season where people like me attempt to counter-balance the judgment & rejection that has been dished out for years against gays. That puts us in a “black vs. white” position. Unfortunately, I think we’ll all be a lot better off when we can get to “gray”. Until then, I will maintain my position.

And, yes, I would vote for a monogamous gay mayor, if he were the best man for the job.
Tim Wright on Mon, January 25, 2010

Hi,

I think I understand what you are saying. So if I were to say the 99.9 % of everything is relative with that .01 as being definitive would be accurate. Only that no one would agree on what that .01% that is definitive?

Tim
Tim Wright on Mon, January 25, 2010

Hi,

Thanks for the compliment, I think. The desire that same sex people have for each other is a black hole of pain, that sucks literally and metaphorically everything into their life trying to use it as an emotional land fill. I doesn’t work.

I thought of this recently as I was encouraging my friend who has left his homosexual orientation over 29 years ago and I asked him if he had ever come across a emotionally fulfilled heterosexual that wanted to become homosexual and he said no. Why do you think many people leave homosexuality, because it is a lie. When people tell me they are gay, I say no your not, which surprisingly is not appreciated. If I told you I was a 1968 Mustang, would you agree with my delusion or would you say how nice?

Homosexual practice goes against the design of a person. They can not reproduce. They depend on people being faithful to heterosexual practice for their ranks to increase, they is no life in their behaviour.

This is fun.

Tim
David Buckham on Mon, January 25, 2010

It’s been a long time since I have been on here…

I see homosexuality as a sin, a sexual sin, just like sleeping around with someone you aren’t married to, shacking up before you are married, and so on. These are all sins.

I also see stealing as a sin, murder as sin, lying as a sin, coveting as a sin and slander as sin. All these are things politicians are often “accused” of or caught doing in some form or another.

My point is; sin is sin, regardless of what shade of sin it may be. There is no one who is sinless. Further, what did Christ say about governmental power? The only reason this man is in office is because God has allowed it (John 19:11).

all about Christ,
David Buckham
Jessica on Mon, January 25, 2010

Hey Tim-

There are many emotionally-unfulfilled heterosexual people who reproduce in an attempt to fulfill themselves emotionally as well. That’s not good either.

And, in comparison, there are many gay people who say that leaving the heterosexual world was the best move they ever made, because it was the end of a lie.

The truth is that there are situations where one man’s truth is another man’s lie. I don’t think that anyone can understand truth without the love of Jesus. I would agree that WITHOUT JESUS, all people (heterosexual and homosexual) use all kinds of things: chemicals, addictions, and people to fill a black hole of pain and end up creating an emotional landfill.

Christians and the Church have to stop focusing solely on the promiscuous gay man who runs naked in a parade and desires to stick his unChristian penis wherever he can.

I have a tendency to focus on the many emotionally fulfilled, monogamous homosexuals who are doing their best to live out a good life. They work hard, try their best to treat people right, and make good decisions. Their biggest fight comes from trying to live out their lives while being rejected by the church…it becomes a find-Jesus-by-yourself, accept-Jesus-by-yourself, then disciple-yourself kind of life. So if they do find Jesus at all, they often fizzle out and lose their religion. That’s a shame. I continually ask, “How can we reach these people and people like them for Jesus?”

I love your passion. I agree that this is fun, as long as we continue to keep it above board. Thanks for doing that.
Tim Wright on Mon, January 25, 2010

Hiya,

Having a homosexual orientation is not sin, like some one who is a paedophile. But it is what we do with our bodies that make it a sin. I do not you can be a person who continually and without repentance be a homosexual who engages in sex with other men can be a Christian just like a paedophile who practices sex with children can be a christian. Now a person may have relapses into this behaviour as a Christian, but you can not be a Christian and believe that sex with some one of the same sex is what Jesus desires for you. Christ came to set us free.

I encourage you to watch these videos by Robert Gagnon and this entire channel on Vimeo:

http://www.vimeo.com/2126309

Cheers

Tim
Mary on Mon, January 25, 2010

Observation #1: Brandon Mouser does not vote.
Observation #2: I checked his blog. He calls his spouse “wifey”...
Observation #3: He either cannot spell or cannot proofread, or both.

Thank you for not voting.
jack on Tue, January 26, 2010

Here we go again…Christians acting stupidly. Why doesn’ that pastor form a relationship with that mayor and influence her with the loving Gospel of Jesus Christ.

I agree with the former commenter ... let’s boycott all the greedy Christians, and gossipy Christians, and selfish Christians…hey, I’m a pastor - let’s boycott all the non-tithing Christians!!!!