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    Should Sarah Palin Have Just Stayed at Home?  Could She be a ‘Biblical’ Commander i

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    OK… I’d love to hear your thoughts, particularly on the Sarah Palin comment.  Here’s a short poll… then leave your comments below…


    We don't usually get too political here at MMI, and I think this is more of a interpretation of scripture post than a political post anyway... but...here's an interesting video where John Piper gives his view on the election. Here's a quote:

    I personally think that it would have been better for her to stay at home with her disabled child, both for the good of the family and as a model for moms... I don't think, Biblically, that a woman should be commander in chief.

    Some people would either consider this quote to be one of two things: either Biblical or sexist. Here's the short video... take a look... then let us know what you think...

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    1. Wendi Hammond on Mon, November 03, 2008

      Piper’s comments are no surprise.  I appreciate though, that he said things like “for me personally” and “I think” when he described his interpretation of scripture.  I disagree with both Piper and Driscoll, but Piper’s tone is more loving and, IMO, reflects a more biblical posture toward brothers and sisters who disagree with him.


      I’m not sure what he does with Deborah’s command of the armies of Israel, nor can I think of any NT passages where one can even remotely infer a directive to either gender about assuming or not assuming a political office.


      Wendi

    2. Peter Hamm on Mon, November 03, 2008

      Yeah, but what is up with that photo of Palin. SCARY!

    3. Lori on Mon, November 03, 2008

      Few thoughts:


      1.  We are not voting for a Biblical position but a secular, political one.  Thus it is sexist to say she shouldn’t be running.


      2.  She was already governor when she learned of her pregnancy.  Should she have broken her word and commitment and resign as Governor to stay home with Trig?


      3.. The Bible does not command a woman to stay home and not work?


      4.  I care about a politician’s stand on the issues I believe in and not gender.


      5.  I agree that our hope is in God’s sovereignty and not who wins tomorrow.


      6.  I will vote tomorrow but I work everyday for the Kingdom of God.  The latter is much more rewarding.

    4. Tim on Mon, November 03, 2008

      The horrors of racism, as real as they are, do not justify putting a man in office who will appoint Supreme Court Justices who will continue the greater horror of the slaughter of over a million innocent unborn babies every year.

    5. DG on Mon, November 03, 2008

      The comment about Sarah Palin is just plain stupid.  I agree 100% about the abortion issue.  Obama will be a scary president if he is elected tomorrow.

    6. see-through faith on Mon, November 03, 2008

      actually she wasn’t a stay at home mom to begin with. What’s Piper’s take on that?


      Grrr

    7. Danny Rogers on Mon, November 03, 2008

      I’m chewing on this one.  It stirs within me a lot of unique thoughts.


      Piper’s point about God working through all types of leaders is a great reminder for us all.  God’s plan will be carried out, not matter who gets elected.

    8. Tim on Mon, November 03, 2008

      Response to his “challenges”


      1. Womanhood -  So, we just assume that the baby will be far away from his mother???  No way.  Rest assured that the baby will never be far from her.  Do you really think that she is going to leave this baby behind as she serves the nation?  Absolutely not.  This is absurd to say that she cannot govern righteously because of her womanhood.  I voted for W twice, but would have gladly taken Sarah over W in either, or both, terms.  What is sad is when it gets to the point where the MEN can’t clean up the corruption that has become our political structure.  Piper, you are wrong on this one.


      2.  Race - Since when should political races ever be about race.  Wasn’t it MLK that said something about judging a man by his character rather than color???  So what if he’s the first Black American to ever run for president.  The color of a man’s skin driving people to vote is only an indicator of our shallow our society is when it comes to considering the issues.  Hey, the issues!!!  How about we consider ISSUES in an election.  Listen to what he says rather than looking at his skin.


      3. Abortion - Yes…abortion is evil.  Yes…12 million slaughtered Black babies…and Barack is content to let the holocaust continue.


      4. Prophetic Perspective - We might not live for politics, but we should never use that as an excuse for ignorance and a passive nature when it comes to the political process and its effect on our land.  Yes, this world is passing away…but to whom is it passing?  Our children and to their children and to their children’s children.  We should consider how we pass it on to them.  Some people have become so heavenly minded that they are of no earthly good.  There must be a healthy balance.


      5. Sovereignty of God - Amen!  Finally, we get it right.  God is sovereign and He will do as He wills.  But, Piper is wrong about abortion, and others, being the judgment.  Abortion and gay marriage are all issues that we must address and on which we must lead our nation to take a stance in line with God’s Word. 


      6. The Gospel - Two in a row here!  Amen.  We are here to advocate for Christ and to be His Ambassadors.  Totally agree here on this!!!  But, again, let this not be an excuse for ignorance and inactivity in the political process.

    9. see-through faith on Mon, November 03, 2008

      oh and I loved it that he said “America is not my allegience” ... though there will be those who wil take that out of context and misquoteit of course.


      He’s got a great take on the credit crunch and also spoke out against racism (rejoicing that there might be an African American elected) and also spoke out against abortion (very strongly)


      what he says makes sense we all tend to take this election way too seriously and fail to put our faith in God also in the matter of the credit crunch.


      I would like to hear what hisview is on Deborah in the OT though http://www.mondaymorninginsight.com/images/smileys/smile.gif

    10. Joseph Louthan on Mon, November 03, 2008

      Piper is dead on about the carrot-dangling issues of abortion and gay rights being judgments of God because of what is the hearts of our countrymen rather than outright sin.


      I do agree with Piper on Palin not being the Commander-in-Chief of our Armed Forces.  I think that she should be at home taking care off her kid because of his unique needs and not because I think women should be stay at home.


      I can only echo what I have been preaching for the last year: God is completely sovereign and He ordains all leaders (believers and non-believers) whether in a country, churches, organizations, businesses or even your local Boy Scout troop.


      Seriously, I don’t see how you can have hope for the kingdom of God if you think God is not in the little details of our lives.

    11. kc on Mon, November 03, 2008

      Piper is wrong, wrong, wrong.


      Joseph: if “God is completely sovereign and He ordains all leaders (believers and non-believers) whether in a country, churches, organizations, businesses or even your local Boy Scout troop” then I guess no one really needs to vote?

    12. Lynn on Mon, November 03, 2008

      So, what about a woman being in submission to her OWN husband.  If Todd and Sarah Palin say that she can do both and they can work the roles together, who is Piper to say they can’t?   Read the Proverbs 31 woman again:  she took care of her family and bought and sold fields, etc.   Which is more evil, a working mother or a man who “won’t touch the 12 million aborted black babies with a ten foot pole?”  Piper needs to listen to this interview.  He’d probably vote against himself!


      I’ll take a chance on a working mother before I’ll cast a vote for a abortion-supporting, gay-agenda supporting, extreme-welfare supporting man with exreme friendships just so we can have our first black president.


      Yes, God will be with us either way, but He does expect us to make the right choices.

    13. Leland on Mon, November 03, 2008

      Sorry Joseph, but God can and does change his mind in answer to his people’s prayers.  Just look at Jonah and Moses.


      I agree that God is soveriegn, but I also agree with kc here.

    14. William Schultz on Mon, November 03, 2008

      The problem with Palin is the problem noted by Mark A. Noll in “The Scandal of the Evangelical Mind”—namely, “The scandal of the evangelical mind is that there is not much of an evangelical mind…Notwithstanding all their other virtues, American evangelicals are not exemplary for their thinking, and they ahve not been so for several generations.”


      The abortion and homosexuality issues are red herrings—Republicans have been in office 24 of the 36 years since Roe/Way and still there is no leglislation against abortions.  A vote for McCain/Palin on this issue this term is moot—no Conservative judges will be appointed with the margins they are predicting in the Senate/House!!


      Anti-abortion is not pro-life.  Pro-war (especially preemptive) and pro-life do not go together.  Remember, someone once said “Love your enemies!” 


      Homosexuality is not going away no matter who lives in the White House. 


      Palin is an intellectual midget—she should stay at home and read history to her children.

    15. PRS on Mon, November 03, 2008

      Jesus’ Biblical behavior toward people made it clear that he valued all people equally, without respect to race or gender.  He didn’t bother with setting up “Biblical shoulds and shouldn’ts for daily living.”  God had already accomplished that.


      As far as I can tell, his primary guideline for how to live an individual life is to “Follow me.”  “Follow me” seemed to consistently be interpreted as, “let everyone know how they are valued by their Creator.”  Jesus’ reason for living was to free (forgive) and encourage each person to seek reconciliation to God, and then to one another.  Jesus never really looked like a “Commander in Chief” during his earthly life, so to “follow Jesus” would not include this job description.  Let’s stop being God,  followers of Christ, and get on with the truly hard work of learning love, and pounding our swords into plowshares.  Open yourself to God’s grace poured into you, for the sake of the world.

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