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    Worship Star by Shekelback


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    1. PastorRick on Fri, May 01, 2009

      Too true to be good - for “worship stars” and those who idolize them!

    2. Al on Fri, May 01, 2009

      Outch!  That hits pretty close to home.

    3. John Morris on Sat, May 02, 2009

      Oh my goodness…this is GENIUS!

    4. high interest checking on Mon, May 04, 2009

      I never worshipped any film star.People who do r crazy.Their life is really diff from others and do we know them personally?They pretend a lot.Its sad that so much importance is given to them by lots of idiots.u can be a fan,thats not wrong if the star

    5. Michelle Van Loon on Mon, May 04, 2009

      Sad. True. Spot on.

    6. music director on Mon, May 04, 2009

      As a worship leader, I will admit that identity and pride issues ARE a constant battle for me.  However, speaking not only for myself but for the volunteer musicians that I lead and for close friends who lead worship in neighboring churches - well, I’m glad this video is satire - it represents only about 1 in 100 Christian musicians.  It may seem like more than that - but those are the ones you notice, correct?  Most of us truly want God to be the ONLY focus in worship.  Sometimes we get in the way - pray for us.

    7. Steve Long on Mon, May 04, 2009

      Worship leader? What’s that? The guy or gal that leads the singing? I guess that worship is something you have to enter into which means that somewhere there is an exit otherwise one wouldn’t have to reenter it next Sunday. Once one is between the entry and the exit they are smack dab in worship. There are amplifiers, high voltage, and personal mic’s in worship and once the exit is found..tinnitus is part of the blessed afterglow. I enjoy good music but to reveal something of myself I don’t feel very ‘worshipful’ after repeating some cut and paste cliche from the ‘Christianlike phrases thesaurus’ eight times. The worship leader sways in glazed eye rapture as words like ‘awesome’, ‘mighty’, and ‘Lamb’ turn into nonsensical syllables to me and I struggle to remember their meaning. In my confusion and frustration I remember that I will be partaking in communion in a few minutes and I’m losing my grip on the English language.


      I thought that worship was something that happened when I looked at my seven children (and one daughter-in-law) and can hardly contain my thankfulness to our Father who blesses me richly. I thought that worship was part of the wild and lonely feeling I get when I stare deeply into the ebon night sky shot through with glittering diamonds of light…and then with my heart in my throat consider the intellect that made me so small and space so big. When I put my fingertips at the pulse in my throat and flet the rhythmic flow, evidence of my beating heart, and thanked God for life and breath and everything I thought that was worship. I thought when I considered the needs of the vulnerable mom or child and came alongside to encourage and remind them that a loving God is still high on His throne that this was worship.


      I guess worship has an entry and an exit. It is a corporate activity that needs a leader and probably has bongo drums. I have tragically misunderstood worship. My bad.

    8. music director on Tue, May 05, 2009

      Steve,


      All of those things you mentioned are worship.  But, please consider that Revelation 4 & 5 might also be worship.  Rev. 4:8 speaks of the living creatures -  day after day and night after night saying,  “Holy, holy, holy is the Lord God, the Almighty - the one who always was, who is, and who is still to come.”  (more than 8 times).


      I don’t believe ALL worship has to be musical or corporate.  But, there are an enormous amount of verses in the Bible that suggest that sometimes it IS musical and corporate and certainly will be in heaven.  The difference is that while we are here on earth - we will have to leave the building at times and go our separate ways.  That doesn’t mean that worship has stopped.  But, it does mean that we look forward to meeting next week to worship corporately once more.  In heaven - we’ll just always be there!

    9. Steve Long on Tue, May 05, 2009

      Music Director,


      I guess my density on this issue comes from trying to connect current practice with the role that music played in the early church The ones who received support in the early church were those who labored in the propagation of the good news. Music didn’t seem to be on the radar as an ecclesiastical profession.


      Also, so much of the music environment in various congregations is aimed at creating a certain ambiance. I wonder if ambiance is a good target to aim at. There is not much that is spontaneous or real to it. Most attendees become acclimated to X number of fast, hot tunes followed by the cool-off of several more mellow songs. The ‘worship service’ (that is what it is called) travels for a certain length of time. Does true ‘worship’ look repetitious and time constrained like this. I get your point about the created creatures falling down and crying ‘Holy, Holy, Holy is the Lord God Almighty continuously but maybe that is more a picture of the continuous attitude and condition of the heart of every creature in heaven than say for instance vain repetitions. What differentiates the repetitions of the Quran in the madrases, or the rolling of the prayer beads in the cathedral, or the chanting of a mantra in Hindu Temple from the overabundant, excessive reuse and repeat of churchlike phrases in contemporary christian music. This is a relatively new musical problem in churches. Check out the last 1000 years of ‘church’ music to see for yourself if this is true.I think I am saying that it looks to me like the emperor has no clothes and well meaning fellows like you are trying to reassure me that he certainly does have clothes on because all the other worship leaders have concluded he does.


      Look, I see tremendous value in collecting all of the hearts in a church gathering from their various concerns and problems and beginning to unify and prepare them for the Word of God but that process doesn’t begin when folks ‘enter into worship’ (singing). It begins when they roll up to the property and are greeted with a smile by a parking lot attendant and then when they enter the building when they are warmly greeted and inquired after…and every subsequent encounter. They begin to shed those things that encumber them from receiving manna from God.

    10. drbob on Tue, May 05, 2009

      Lighten up! =)

    11. Steve Long on Wed, May 06, 2009

      drbob,


      Was that command to ‘lighten up’ from the Spirit or from the doctorate?  I think the matter of worship of the creator is serious (and joyful) business and even if you disagree with my thinking or method this comment forum is open to all expressions…from intense to light.  I am not a lone voice representing the point of view I have expressed and neither are you or Music Director of your own views.  We really have the freedom to be frank here and to deal thoughtfully with the frankness of others. I would suggest that a handle like Drbob reveals some insecurity…that you need your degree and the command tone (referencing your comment) to lend weight to your opinion. I might be very wrong about that though.

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