Wow this guy has some real issues “these liberal churches were no one is getting saved” how does he know how many people are getting saved at Pastor Nobles church and when is the last time someone got saved in this guys church. I don’t care if he’s got 5, 50 or 500 people in his church. His whole “we need old fashioned church” mindset is why this generation is leaving the church because it’s not relevent. I don’t know the church he’s talking about but it sounds like it’s on the cutting edge and obviously reaching a city state, nation and a generation with the love of God.

Ok, I wanna throw my thoughts in...I disagree with the notion that “old-fashioned church” is not relevant.  The fact that there is a congregation under this pastor should be proof that to some (perhaps not the majority) this is relevant for reaching them.

To me the notion of hymn vs praise, hymnal vs projector, “knocking on doors” vs event evangelism, etc etc should not be an issue.  When I study the New Testament, I really don’t see Christ knocking on doors, but I don’t see Paul going into Ephesus throwing a block-party.  According my my professors in seminary Jesus didn’t speak Elizabethan english nor did the Temple have copies of the Baptist Hymnal.

Any tool that brings the Gospel to the lost and the saved closer to Christ should be allowed to be relevant to the audience God intends it be used for.  Not everyone agrees with door-to-door evangelism, not everyone agrees with sports evangelism or event evangelism, but I know people drawn to Christ by all three methods, so is either more relevant than the others?  It depends on who met Jesus because of which type.

Of course, there will be some read my post and accuse me of diluting the truth or opening the church up for pagan and satanic methods in order to “do anything to reach the lost”, but that’s ok.  Someone with a level head will see what I’m driving at here.

I spent some of my teenage years in an IFC similar to this - so this is very familiar to me also.  If you listen to Steve’s message about Billy Graham going to hell - you might also get the impression that this church, Faithful Word Baptist, believes that they are absolutely correct in everything they believe, because the world hates them.  (they are being criticized by some of the bloggers here - so therefore, they are truly of God.  If you are not criticized, but loved, there is no way that you are of God.) However, since Steve is speaking bad of Billy Graham - I guess that means that Billy Graham really is of God.
I wonder how this group of people get their meat - it can’t be from Steve preaching about guitar hero or about men peeing standing up vs. sitting down...that’s more like oils & fats & sugars to me…
the guy does, however, make a couple good points in his message.  I think we’ll all be surprised someday when we get to heaven.  We’ll find we have been right on some issues and wrong on some others...well, I’m sure I won’t have been wrong on any issues - just everyone else. 

Been there, done that! I was exactly like that oce...it didn’t work very well...I can probably tell you where he went to school...I feel for him...he proably loves Jesus, Hischurch, his people, the lost...I will pray for him...he was taught well and trained to do what he did...he is missing some real joy...I also hope and pray I have as much enthusiasm for the gospel as he has...just want to channel it a little differently.

One more thing, here is the churches web site http://www.faithfulwordbaptist.org and read some of the essays.