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    Just for Fun:  Pastoral Either/Or

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    KJV or NIV?
    Megachurch or Small church?
    Dress:  Sunday Tie or no tie?
    Pro Rick Warren or  Anti-Rick Warren?
    Sermons:  Manuscript or no manuscript?
    Ever 'heavily borrow' sermon material?
    Ever use someone elses' sermon Word for word?
    Communion: bread or cracker?
    Contemporary or Traditional?
    Women Pastors or Guys only?
    Ed Young or Erwin McManus?
    Rob Bell or Rick Warren?
    Ginger or Mary Ann? (or for you ladies, Gilligan or the Professor?)
    Multi-Site or Church Plant? (or both?)
    Root beer or Bud light?
    Seeker Sensitive or Anti-Seeker Sensitive?
    Purpose Driven or Anti-Purpose Driven?
    Saturday Church or Sunday Church?

    OK... let's hear it... I'll go first!

    KJV or NIV?
    Megachurch or Small church? Mega.  (As a worship guy, I love the musical quality of the worship)
    Dress:  Sunday Tie or no tie? (what's a tie?)
    Pro Rick Warren or  Anti-Rick Warren? (pro!)
    Sermons:  Manuscript or no manuscript?  Not a preacher/sorry.
    Ever 'heavily borrow' sermon material?  Nope.
    Ever use someone elses' sermon Word for word? Nope.  Not without giving credit! smile
    Communion: bread or cracker? I prefer the homemade bread.
    Contemporary or Traditional?  Contemporary, although love traditional when done right! smile
    Women Pastors or Guys only?  For senior Pastors, guys. (Sorry ladies)
    Ed Young or Erwin McManus?  (ah... probably Ed)
    Rob Bell or Rick Warren?  (hmmm... I like them both... Rob Bell makes me think... I like that)
    Ginger or Mary Ann? (or for you ladies, Gilligan or the Professor?)  Mary Ann, of course!
    Multi-Site or Church Plant? (or both?) Both... but am a big cheerleader for the multi-site movement)
    Root beer or Bud light?  Root beer
    Seeker Sensitive or Anti-Seeker Sensitive? Pro
    Purpose Driven or Anti-Purpose Driven? Pro
    Saturday Church or Sunday Church?  My church doesn't currently have it, but I'd do Saturday night anytime!  smile

    OK... let's hear your likes/dislikes!

    Have a great weekend!

    Todd

    Hey… just for fun… Let’s play pastoral either/or.  Cut and paste the list in your comments along with your answers.  Feel free to also answer ‘whys’ to the following preferences…

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    1. JMH on Fri, October 07, 2005

      KJV or NIV? KJV


      Megachurch or Small church? Mega


      Dress:  Sunday Tie or no tie? tie


      Pro Rick Warren or Anti-Rick Warren? Pro


      Sermons:  Manuscript or no manuscript? MSS


      Ever ‘heavily borrow’ sermon material? yes

      Ever use someone elses’ sermon Word for word? no


      Communion: bread or cracker? bread


      Contemporary or Traditional? contemporary


      Women Pastors or Guys only? guys for senior


      Ed Young or Erwin McManus? Ed


      Rob Bell or Rick Warren? Rick


      Ginger or Mary Ann? (or for you ladies, Gilligan or the Professor?) Ginger

       

      Multi-Site or Church Plant? (or both?) both


      Root beer or Bud light? Root beer


      Seeker Sensitive or Anti-Seeker Sensitive? seeker


      Purpose Driven or Anti-Purpose Driven? purpose


      Saturday Church or Sunday Church? Sunday

       

    2. chris on Fri, October 07, 2005

      NIV


      - Megachurch


      - No tie

      - Pro Rick Warren


      - Manuscript as a safety net. I have it with me but rarely use it.


      - Ever ‘heavily borrow’ sermon material? Not in the sense of plagiarism.


      - Ever use someone elses’ sermon Word for word? Never. If you don’t have integrity from the pulpit, why should your congregation have them when they deal with your job?


      - Communion: bread


      - Contemporary or Traditional? Blended with a contemporary feel.

       

      - Guys only


      - Ed Young


      - Rick Warren


      - Mary Ann


      - Church Plant


      - Root beer


      - Seeker Sensitive or Anti-Seeker Sensitive? Uh… this one isn’t worded fairly. I think you should be sensitive to your guests, but believe Romans 3 is pretty clear that there are no seekers. And, I think 1 Timothy 4 makes it pretty clear that the audience of the sermon should be believers. So, I’m for seekers, but against messages that are afraid they’ll offend unbelievers.

       

      - Purpose Driven


      - Sunday Church though our church has a Friday night church service that I love. As a non-teaching pastor, it’s really nice to get a weekend off.

       

    3. matt on Fri, October 07, 2005

      KJV or NIV? NIV


      Megachurch or Small church? MEGA


      Dress:  Sunday Tie or no tie? JEANS


      Pro Rick Warren or Anti-Rick Warren? PRO

      Sermons:  Manuscript or no manuscript? MSS


      Ever ‘heavily borrow’ sermon material? NO


      Ever use someone elses’ sermon Word for word? NO


      Communion: bread or cracker? BREAD LOAF


      Contemporary or Traditional? POST-CONTEMPORARY

       

      Women Pastors or Guys only? BRING IN THE LADIES


      Ed Young or Erwin McManus? ERWIN


      Rob Bell or Rick Warren? BELL


      Ginger or Mary Ann? (or for you ladies, Gilligan or the Professor?) LOVIE…JUST KIDDING…MARY ANN


      Multi-Site or Church Plant? (or both?) MULTI IF I HAVE TO CHOOSE…BOTH ARE GREAT


      Root beer or Bud light?  DIET COKE


      Seeker Sensitive or Anti-Seeker Sensitive? SEEKER SENSITIVE


      Purpose Driven or Anti-Purpose Driven? SORT OF…FIND OWN PURPOSE

       

      Saturday Church or Sunday Church? EITHER

       

    4. Rev. Peter W. Gilroy on Fri, October 07, 2005

      KJV or NIV?  NASB, NKJV, or The Message


      Megachurch or Small church?  Mega


      Dress:  Sunday Tie or no tie?   No tie, but maybe a Clerical shirt

      Pro Rick Warren or Anti-Rick Warren?  Neutral


      Sermons:  Manuscript or no manuscript? Just an outline


      Ever ‘heavily borrow’ sermon material?  Maybe


      Ever use someone elses’ sermon Word for word? No

       

      Communion: bread or cracker? Bread and Wine whenever possible


      Contemporary or Traditional?  Contemporary, with liturgy


      Women Pastors or Guys only? Both, but Male senior pastor


      Ed Young or Erwin McManus? Bit of both


      Rob Bell or Rick Warren? Both, in moderation


      Ginger or Mary Ann? (or for you ladies, Gilligan or the Professor?) No idea


      Multi-Site or Church Plant? (or both?) Both

       

      Root beer or Bud light? Neither: real ale/micro-brewed beer or a decent red wine


      Seeker Sensitive or Anti-Seeker Sensitive? Seeker aware, at least


      Purpose Driven or Anti-Purpose Driven? Grace led…


      Saturday Church or Sunday Church? Both

       

    5. Terry Storch on Fri, October 07, 2005

      KJV or NIV? -NIV


      Megachurch or Small church? -MEGA


      Dress:  Sunday Tie or no tie? -WHAT IS A TIE?

      Pro Rick Warren or Anti-Rick Warren? -PRO


      Sermons:  Manuscript or no manuscript? -NO


      Ever ‘heavily borrow’ sermon material? -NO


      Ever use someone elses’ sermon Word for word? -NO


      Communion: bread or cracker? -CRACKER

       

      Contemporary or Traditional? -BOTH


      Women Pastors or Guys only? -GUYS


      Ed Young or Erwin McManus? -ED


      Rob Bell or Rick Warren? -ROB


      Ginger or Mary Ann? (or for you ladies, Gilligan or the Professor?) -GINGER


      Multi-Site or Church Plant? (or both?) -MULTI


      Root beer or Bud light? ROOT


      Seeker Sensitive or Anti-Seeker Sensitive? -SEEKER


      Purpose Driven or Anti-Purpose Driven? -PURPOSE

       

      Saturday Church or Sunday Church?  -SAT!

       

    6. Bernie Dehler on Fri, October 07, 2005

      Rev. Peter said:


      “Dress: Sunday Tie or no tie? No tie, but maybe a Clerical shirt”


      Definitely spoken like a “man of the cloth.”  Where did that term come from, anyway???

      ...Bernie

       

    7. Art on Fri, October 07, 2005

      KJV or NIV?  - Can I say both?


      Megachurch or Small church?  - I’d like a megachurch please!


      Dress:  Sunday Tie or no tie? - NO TIE!!!

      Pro Rick Warren or Anti-Rick Warren? - PRO


      Sermons:  Manuscript or no manuscript?


      - What’s a manuscript???


      Ever ‘heavily borrow’ sermon material?

       

      - Yep.


      Ever use someone elses’ sermon Word for word?  - Nope.


      Communion: bread or cracker? - Cracker


      Contemporary or Traditional? - Contemporary

       

      Women Pastors or Guys only?  - Both


      Ed Young or Erwin McManus? - Ed


      Rob Bell or Rick Warren? - Rick (and a little Rob thrown in for fun!)


      Ginger or Mary Ann? (or for you ladies, Gilligan or the Professor?) - Definitely Mary Ann!


      Multi-Site or Church Plant? (or both?)


      - Church Plant

       

      Root beer or Bud light? - Never had Bud Light, but I’ll try anything!


      Seeker Sensitive or Anti-Seeker Sensitive? - Seeker Sensitive


      Purpose Driven or Anti-Purpose Driven?


      - PD all the way!


      Saturday Church or Sunday Church? - Since I want a megachurch I’ll take both!!!

       

      That was fun!

       

    8. dan ohlerking on Fri, October 07, 2005

      KJV or NIV? >> both and then some


      Megachurch or Small church? >> mega with small venue campus options


      Dress:  Sunday Tie or no tie? >> whatever as long as it isn’t JUST a tie (my parents were missionaries - i’ve heard stories…)

      Pro Rick Warren or Anti-Rick Warren? >> why in the world would anyone be anti-RW?  how ignorant would that be? wanna fight?


      Sermons:  Manuscript or no manuscript? >> just notes


      Ever ‘heavily borrow’ sermon material? >> oh yeah

       

      Ever use someone elses’ sermon Word for word? >> nope


      Communion: bread or cracker? >> we actually have these little packages that have a wafer and the cup all in one peel-top disposable unit - still means the same thing, just easier to distribute.


      Contemporary or Traditional? >> contemporarily traditional


      Women Pastors or Guys only? >> mostly guys

       

      Ed Young or Erwin McManus? >> i don’t want to have to pick - love them both.


      Rob Bell or Rick Warren?  >> same deal - different ministries, but i love reading both (i admit that bell has a little more appeal to read, though - but then he’s seriously hip)


      Ginger or Mary Ann? (or for you ladies, Gilligan or the Professor?) >> i just want the howell’s bankroll.  you can keep the floozies.

       

      Multi-Site or Church Plant? (or both?) >> both and more - missions via multi-site intertwined with media - a great braid.


      Root beer or Bud light?  diet coke with splenda


      Seeker Sensitive or Anti-Seeker Sensitive? >> now why in the world would someone be anti-seeker sensitive - think about it - do you WANT to push people away?  sure, there’s a line somewhere that you have to be willing to offend, but that’s the cross itself.

       

      Purpose Driven or Anti-Purpose Driven? >> again, why in the world would you NOT want to be purpose-driven?  even if you aren’t a fan of the book, you’ve got to want to be driven by a purpose.  the alternative is - what - floating thru life?  that sounds great.


      Saturday Church or Sunday Church? >> both - whenever, whatever it takes.

       

      thanks for asking.

       

    9. Michael Rew on Fri, October 07, 2005

      KJV or NIV? Why should a KJV-NIV Parallel Bible be called the Perpendicular Bible? Because any angle the NIV gives, the KJV gives the right angle. (KJV.)


      Megachurch or Small Church? Small.


      Sunday Tie or No Tie? If I can manage it, shoe tie.


      Pro- or Anti-Rick Warren? Neil Warren. eHarmony!


      Sermons: Manuscript or No Manuscript? Line. Line, please.

      Ever ‘heavily borrow’ sermon material? It depends on what interest the loan would generate.


      Ever use someone elses’ sermon Word for word? If it were the Sermon on the Mount, maybe I should!


      Communion: bread or cracker? Who are you calling a cracker?


      Contemporary or Traditional? Would early Michael W. Smith and Amy Grant tunes count as Traditional nowadays? Today’s youth may think of some of them as Received Hymns.

       

      Women Pastors or Guys only? Guys only, of course. The wives’ pastors can teach the younger women. Sorry, fellas.


      Ed Young or Erwin McManus? Who? Who?


      Rob Bell or Rick Warren? Taco Bell. Neil Warren.


      Ginger or Mary Ann? Bleah.


      Multi-Site or Church Plant? Off-site, planted in a recliner to watch the tube.

       

      Root Beer or Bud Light? Neither.


      Seeker Sensitive or Anti-Seeker Sensitive? Be sensitive to the Holy Spirit, and let the Holy Spirit be sensitive to those who seek.


      Purpose-Driven or Anti-Purpose Driven? Yeah, yeah. Promise Keepers. Experiencing God. Vineyard. Prayer of Jabez. What will be next?


      Saturday Church or Sunday Church? My home fellowship meets on Saturday nights.

       

    10. Peter Hamm on Sat, October 08, 2005

      KJV or NIV? NLT & NA27

      Megachurch or Small church? Okay


      Dress:  Sunday Tie or no tie? Shorts & flip-flops


      Pro Rick Warren or Anti-Rick Warren? Pro


      Sermons:  Manuscript or no manuscript? manuscript


      Ever ‘heavily borrow’ sermon material? Of course!

       

      Ever use someone elses’ sermon Word for word? Little pieces


      Communion: bread or cracker? bread


      Contemporary or Traditional? I’ll take door #3


      Women Pastors or Guys only? It takes all kinds!


      Ed Young or Erwin McManus? Erwin


      Rob Bell or Rick Warren? Rick


      Ginger or Mary Ann? (or for you ladies, Gilligan or the Professor?) Mary Ann

       

      Multi-Site or Church Plant? (or both?) BOTH


      Root beer or Bud light? Anchor Steam


      Seeker Sensitive or Anti-Seeker Sensitive? Seeker-sensitive


      Purpose Driven or Anti-Purpose Driven? purpose-driven


      Saturday Church or Sunday Church?Yes.

       

    11. bernie dehler on Sun, October 09, 2005

      KJV or NIV? NIV


      Megachurch or Small church? Neither, medium!


      Dress:  Sunday Tie or no tie? Casual and basic, like Jesus did.

      Pro Rick Warren or Anti-Rick Warren? Not sure


      Sermons:  Manuscript or no manuscript? Whatever it takes.


      Ever ‘heavily borrow’ sermon material? Yes.


      Ever use someone elses’ sermon Word for word? No.  That sounds immoral.  Plus, God gives me the message & direction to share.

       

      Communion: bread or cracker? Doesn’t matter.


      Contemporary or Traditional? Contemporary


      Women Pastors or Guys only? Women


      Ed Young or Erwin McManus? Don’t know much of either.


      Rob Bell or Rick Warren? Don’t know either well enough to say.


      Ginger or Mary Ann? (or for you ladies, Gilligan or the Professor?) No contest. Ginger!


      Multi-Site or Church Plant? (or both?)Plant! Multiply, don’t add!

       

      Root beer or Bud light? Root beer.  Ocassional Margarita.


      Seeker Sensitive or Anti-Seeker Sensitive? Label seems to loaded and undefined to say.


      Purpose Driven or Anti-Purpose Driven?Not a simple answer.


      Saturday Church or Sunday Church? Sunday’s preferred, because of schedules and culture.


      ...Bernie


      http://raydehler.com/fgn/

    12. kd on Sun, October 09, 2005

      KJV or NIV? Hebrew and Greek (find out for yourself)


      Megachurch or Small church? Any real Church


      Dress:  Sunday Tie or no tie? No tie


      Pro Rick Warren or Anti-Rick Warren?Pro


      Sermons:  Manuscript or no manuscript? God’s manuscript

      Ever ‘heavily borrow’ sermon material? the Lord’s


      Ever use someone elses’ sermon Word for word? The Lord’s


      Communion: bread or cracker? Bread (the bread of life or the cracker of life?)


      Contemporary or Traditional? Both


      Women Pastors or Guys only? Both (Whoever God picks)

       

      Ed Young or Erwin McManus? Both


      Rob Bell or Rick Warren? Both


      Ginger or Mary Ann? (or for you ladies, Gilligan or the Professor?) The gorilla had more sense.


      Multi-Site or Church Plant? (or both?) Both


      Root beer or Bud light? Depends on who you are with( a weaker or stronger believer)


      Seeker Sensitive or Anti-Seeker Sensitive? Seeker sensitive


      Purpose Driven or Anti-Purpose Driven? Purpose driven(we all need a purpose)


      Saturday Church or Sunday Church? (What is church) A body of believers who come together to worship in Spirit and in Truth can happen any day of the week. Don’t put things in a box.

       

    13. James Bertolini on Mon, October 10, 2005

      KJV or NIV? NIV


      Megachurch or Small church? We are small so I say small


      Dress: Sunday Tie or no tie? jeans and T-shirt


      Pro Rick Warren or Anti-Rick Warren?Pro


      Sermons: Manuscript or no manuscript? Whats a manuscript


      Ever ‘heavily borrow’ sermon material? nope, not without credit to them


      Ever use someone elses’ sermon Word for word? nope

      Communion: bread or cracker? Wafer


      Contemporary or Traditional? mostly contemporary


      Women Pastors or Guys only? My vote is for Men as Pastors


      Ed Young or Erwin McManus? Who?


      Rob Bell or Rick Warren? Both


      Ginger or Mary Ann? (My wife Dorothy


      Multi-Site or Church Plant? plant


      Root beer or Bud light? I like both but just 1 or 2

       

      Seeker Sensitive or Anti-Seeker Sensitive? Seeker sensitive


      Purpose Driven or Anti-Purpose Driven? God’s purpose!


      Saturday Church or Sunday Church?  Well seeing we are the church it should be seven days a week. If you mean service time I say Sunday

       

    14. Matt Johnson on Mon, October 10, 2005

      KJV or NIV? NIV or The Message


      Megachurch or Small church? Mega


      Dress:  Sunday Tie or no tie? NO WAY

      Pro Rick Warren or Anti-Rick Warren? Pro


      Sermons:  Manuscript or no manuscript? No


      Ever ‘heavily borrow’ sermon material? Yes


      Ever use someone elses’ sermon Word for word? No


      Communion: bread or cracker? Cookies

       

      Contemporary or Traditional? Con.


      Women Pastors or Guys only? Guys for senior pastor, sorry.


      Ed Young or Erwin McManus? Ed


      Rob Bell or Rick Warren? Rob


      Ginger or Mary Ann? (or for you ladies, Gilligan or the Professor?) My wife’s name is Mary ann, so yeah.


      Multi-Site or Church Plant? Either


      Root beer or Bud light? Root beer, dr. pepper actually


      Seeker Sensitive or Anti-Seeker Sensitive? Middle of the Road

       

      Purpose Driven or Anti-Purpose Driven?


      Sure, if it’s your thing.


      Saturday Church or Sunday Church?


      Both.

       

    15. David Hamstra on Mon, October 10, 2005

      KJV or NIV? NIV (NASB, NLT)


      Megachurch or Small church? Small


      Dress:  Sunday Tie or no tie? Don’t care

      Pro Rick Warren or Anti-Rick Warren? Pro or so


      Sermons:  Manuscript or no manuscript? No manuscript (notes, Power Point)


      Ever ‘heavily borrow’ sermon material? Nope


      Ever use someone elses’ sermon Word for word? Nope


      Communion: bread or cracker? Cracker (unleavened)

       

      Contemporary or Traditional? Contemp.


      Women Pastors or Guys only? Women (have stonger shepherding tendincies than men)


      Ed Young or Erwin McManus? Don’t Know


      Rob Bell or Rick Warren? Don’t Know


      Ginger or Mary Ann? (or for you ladies, Gilligan or the Professor?) Ginger


      Multi-Site or Church Plant? (or both?) plant


      Root beer or Bud light? Neither (ginger ale)

       

      Seeker Sensitive or Anti-Seeker Sensitive? Sinsitive (in principle)


      Purpose Driven or Anti-Purpose Driven? (Driven, in principle)


      Saturday Church or Sunday Church? Saturday (Adventist, full disclosure)

       

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