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    Senior Adult Choir:  Don’t Cha Wish Your Girlfriend Was Hot Like Me?


    I... I don't know know what to say... Be sure to watch the whole thing... it gets pretty hot in there.

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    1. Todd Rhoades on Fri, November 07, 2008

      Brad,


      It’s not a serious thing… it was done as an entry in their youth group’s talent show.  It was done to be humorous.  No seniors were hurt in the taping of this video.


      Lighten up…  http://www.mondaymorninginsight.com/images/smileys/smile.gif


      Todd

    2. Philip on Fri, November 07, 2008

      well then, keep doing your thing brad.  i am not one to stand in the way off someone’s opinion.


      the adults in the video knew what they were doing, they loved being a part of a weekend that saw over 200 people participate and 17 decisions made for Christ.


      one of the benefits of being a part of a multi-generational church is seeing senior adults on a normal basis…being able to worship with them every Sunday…seeking their wisdom in decisions that I have to make as a 27 year old…and yes, even having fun with them!

    3. David Richardson on Fri, November 07, 2008

      They were not being exploited.  Those folks knew what lyrics they were singing.  It was just for fun. Old folks can laugh at themselves, and we young folks should sometimes loosen up and do the same.  Frankly, I enjoyed this.

    4. Cindy K on Fri, November 07, 2008

      In Brad’s defense - the first time I saw it I was rather horrified too - until it was put into context.


      In context it’s wonderful.  What could the kids do but laugh and grin at seeing their grandma and Grandpa singing songs that /they/ sing.  It’s funny. It’s cool.  And it would give them both something to talk and laugh about for a very long time.


      But until I had the context I was thinking that if the choir director told me to sing that stuff I’d tell him exactly where he could put his request, and it wouldn’t be a very ‘Christian’ suggestion either. *wink*

    5. Peter Hamm on Fri, November 07, 2008

      It’s just plain hysterical. I am only 44 and I make fun of myself all the time, I hope when I’m 64 I still can.

    6. brad andrews on Fri, November 07, 2008

      okay friends.  good pushback..


      more food for thought…


      someone explain to me why it’s ok for anyone to sing these songs?  let alone by our elders?  for a chuckle?  on the basis of ‘connecting’ to the youth of the church?

    7. Todd Rhoades on Fri, November 07, 2008

      uh… yeah, pretty much.

    8. Peter on Fri, November 07, 2008

      Brad,


        I think you’re being a little too serious here. As noted, they did this to form a connection. As for why anyone should be singing these songs - that’s a good question to ask. I seem to remember that Charlton Heston read the entire lyrics from some rapper’s album into the minutes of a board meeting.  When told he couldn’t read that (because of the lyrics), he responded that the company was selling it. (Wasn’t invited back, IIRC.)  Perhaps hearing these words from someone else’s mouths would also prompt a little discussion on the appropriateness of those lyrics.  After all, kids don’t actually listen to the words, they just like the music.  At least, that’s the line I always hear when you question them about the lyrics.  Of course, they have no problem mouthing those words while the song is playing or singing along, but of course they don’t _listen_ to them. http://www.mondaymorninginsight.com/images/smileys/smile.gif


      I appreciate your passion on this topic, but I think this might be an area to agree to disagree.  And related to the age and group, I know several senior members across several choirs who would practically jump at a chance to do something like this for a youth weekend gig. They would have had a lot more movement, too.  :-D

    9. Eric Jaffe on Fri, November 07, 2008

      It’s just wrong, what else can someone say.


      Although I have suggested they play DC Talks Jesus Freak at my funeral!

    10. Katrina on Sat, November 08, 2008

      I think Brad is right on target.  What lyrics are they going to sing next?  How about “I Love Big Butts”  Why would we ever legitimize this kind of music to our kids?


      You want to connect the seniors of the church with the youth? How about teaching them Biblical principles of honoring the elderly and respecting them.  How proverbs tells us that silver hair is the sign of wisdom.  No let’s not do that…I know let’s put them in a position of ridicule so that we can perpetuate secular thinking that old people are useless, irrelevant, out of touch, bad drivers, too slow and incapable of taking care of themselves.   Remember that we are to be sanctified…a peculiar people…in the world but not of the world.  We have become so wrapped up in trying to be attractive to the world that we can no longer be distinguished from it.  If we want to connect with the youth, how about we use the “youth ministry” in our churches to teach them the whole counsel of God instead of as a entertainment center or as a baby sitting service.  Once they see their sins in the light of the suffering that Christ endured in our stead and surrender to Jesus as Lord and Savior, then the Biblical principles of respect and honor towards the elderly in our midst will make sense to them and they will obey.  Sounds radical doesn’t it?

    11. Philip on Sat, November 08, 2008

      some people take themselves too seriously!  come on!  let me reiterate…the adults in the video knew what they were doing and why they were doing it…they were threatened with excommunication if they didn’t participate! 


      and why are two of you equating senior adults with people who are “useless, irrelevant, out of touch, bad drivers, incapable of thinking for themselves?”  know one brought that up, no one implied that until the infamous “two.”


      and who said anything about the student ministry being a baby sitting service.  come on?!


      by the way, the next song that they sing will be at a concert (probably “amazing grace” or “holy, holy, holy”)that a ton of students are going to go see to support them for what they did!  is that ok?!

    12. Jan on Sat, November 08, 2008

      I’m sorry. But this is just embarrassing, especially with the strip tease at the end.


      I’m very uncomfortable with the thought that for a teen talent competition, seniors would sing sexually suggestive music because they think it’s funny?


      I don’t think they are being exploited as seniors.   These are grown adults.


      I think they are being ridiculous.

    13. michael on Sat, November 08, 2008

      i can’t believe that this is a serious discussion.


      here is a group of senior adults supporting their student ministry (something that every youth pastor wants and often complains that is lacking) and someone is going to over-spiritualize and attack it.


      way to go senior adult choir for investing in your students.  way to go for helping students laugh.

    14. Jan on Sat, November 08, 2008

      I don’t know.  I am involved in a lot of youth ministry and a couple were at my shoulder watching along with me.  They weren’t laughing.  They were creeped out.

    15. Eddie Pullen on Mon, November 10, 2008

      Whe I watched this, I became sad.  Senior adults do not need to act like this to connect with students.  Senior adults do not need to do a fake striptease to connect with students.  What ever happened to taking a kid out to eat and loving them like Jesus?  Since when do senior adults have to act like this to connect?


      Call me what you want, but this is not wise in my opinion.

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