Today, I Call on all Baptist Churches to Officially Change Their Name
- Posted by: Todd
- Posted on: Thu, June 19, 2008
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Your thoughts?
Todd
I Twittered about this yesterday, but if your church still has "baptist" in it's public name, this should give you reason to re-think that.
I'm just sayin'... as the press reports stories like this (and the other one today about the Fort Worth church), many people you are trying to reach will associate you with these 'baptists'.
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Andy McAdams on Thu, June 19, 2008
I wouldn’t change a name of a church because of pastors (I use the term with tongue in cheek) like this. I’d only change the church name if it is a barrier that keeps people out.
I don’t know what’s worse. The “God hates fags” banner (I think he needs to reread John 3:16) or his sour face that obviously shows no joy of the Lord. Maybe he just had a bowl of lemons for breakfast. Who knows?
I also think it’s sad that this man sits in the seat of judgment concerning who is in hell and who isn’t. I’m not a Baptist. Never have been, but am in agreement with most of the Baptist theology. But, I’ve learned that more people will be in Heaven then what someone like this seems to think. I suppose now if this so-called pastor and defender of the Faith reads this, I’ll be another on his list to eternal Hell. Thank God for the security of the believer (A common Baptist doctrine) and the saving grave of my Savior.
Eric Joppa on Thu, June 19, 2008
Holy Crap, Dude!
It just amazes me how stupid some people can be. I actually wonder if his own message will come to pass on him? He sure doesn’t sound anything like Jesus to me.
-E
Jerry on Thu, June 19, 2008
I wish ALL the media would just turn this guy and his ‘church’ into one big pile of irrelevance! Just ignore him. I don’t know for sure whether God has hardened Fred’s heart or not, but it sure seems like it. He is the antithesis of what Jesus teaches and is no representative of the God I know and love.
I wouldn’t take ‘Baptist’ out of a church name because of Phelps, but I would make extra sure that any church with Baptist in the title was going out of its way to be the heart, hands and feet of God in the community.
Andy McAdams on Thu, June 19, 2008
Oh Oh….Eric…you said Holy Crap. Careful, you may just end up on his list for the next train to eternal hell.
Derek on Thu, June 19, 2008
I just wasted 4 minutes and 11 seconds of my life.
I did like the sports coat and T-shirt. Phelps made his first step to becoming a metrosexual. Ha!
I don’t know if Phelps gives Baptists a bad name or not. I doubt it.
Derek
Jeff Borden on Thu, June 19, 2008
Are you kidding me?
That was one of the most hateful and spiteful things I have ever see. How heartbreaking.
Leonard Lee on Thu, June 19, 2008
Baaaaarrrrrrfffffffffing noises coming from my house.
This makes me sick, I couldn’t watch any more than a few seconds. I don’t know if I would change the name of a church over this guy but I certainly wouldn’t name my dog Fred or Phelps.
Camey on Thu, June 19, 2008
Have been having this conversation a good amount lately in different circles. If individuals are purposeful in sharing God’s love and kindness in and through their lives - the fact that they are “this denomination” should not be the main focus.
Last week a group of funny looking people went and served others in another city. The fact that they were a part of certain church body was only evident by the vehicles they were in. That’s the type of ministry we should all strive for. It’s not the name of the church that’s important…. It’s who they represent in the moments of life/living. I may sound like a broken record here but a denomination does not save anyone nor should it be our claim to glory.
And no, I did not listen to him for a second. But I did pray for him and those who do.
Eric Joppa on Thu, June 19, 2008
LOL Andy,
I hope he doesn’t use King James english on me!!!!!
Andy McAdams on Thu, June 19, 2008
Camey,
You didn’t miss anything by not listening to him. I kind of wish I hadn’t. I just don’t know how someone can truly experience the love and grace of God that brings us to salvation and then end up so hateful.
Camey on Thu, June 19, 2008
Andy,
I do not understand either. That’s why I believe we need to keep praying for him and those like him…. while we also pray for ourselves.
Hope this finds you doing well as you’ve been missed around here.
Andy McAdams on Thu, June 19, 2008
Thanks for missing me. Been extremely busy traveling for our ministry and working with churches. Also to add to life and it’s complications, my wife has lymphoma. Please add her to your prayers. You can read about her and some of her thoughts on the Mayberry site. She is a real woman of faith.
Peter Hamm on Thu, June 19, 2008
Mommy, make the bad man stop!
Camey on Thu, June 19, 2008
Andy,
You are welcome. And thank you for allowing me (and any else who read) the privilege of praying for your wife, you, and your son. Talk soon through email and the Mayberry connection.
David Richardson on Thu, June 19, 2008
I’m not dropping the “Baptist” from our church’s name just because of this guy. He does not speak for me. I just choose to tune him out.
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