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    Willow:  We Got it All Wrong

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    Watch the Video here...

    Then, I’d love to hear your comments.  I’ve heard a lot of people talk about the Willow Study.  The reactions have been everything from ‘wow, this is great stuff’ to ‘well, duh’!  What’s your take?

    Willow has recently asked the question, "Is what we are doing as a church helping people achieve intimacy with Christ?" Their answer... in many cases, was no. You may have heard of the Willow "Reveal Study". Now you can watch Willow XP Greg Hawkins talk about what Willow thinks they've learned through the study. Where did they go wrong? What did they have right?

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    1. All In One Forum on Fri, October 03, 2008

      It reminds me of politicians who change their views and how they say things just to suit what people want to hear. But, you also have to respect Willow’s ability to reinvent itself. Not many churches would be willing to change course in a big way.


      Also, it just makes me wonder if maybe Willow is just entering a different phase in its life cycle. Perhaps it’s like leaving adolescence and entering early adulthood, or something like that? Not to say that one phase is better than another, just different.

    2. Funny SMS on Sat, January 17, 2009

      Nice Stuff.


      Thank you for post.

    3. Jon watson on Sat, February 28, 2009

      I’ve always been impressed with Bill Hybels and now am even more so.


      I like his willingness to even talk about the possibility!


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    4. Hary on Sat, February 28, 2009

      The book acknowledges the fact that 85% of the 5000 attend 3 to 4 times a month.  That doesn’t sound at all representative to me.  While the data is informative, it is skewed significantly toward the attitudes of their most mature attendees of Education .


      Thanks

    5. Katein on Tue, March 03, 2009

      Let’s face it. How many churches do things wrong, know it, and keep on keeping on thinking they are “saving face” or doing their members/attenders a favor?


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    6. Yoms on Wed, March 04, 2009

      Perhaps it’s like leaving adolescence and entering early adulthood, or something like that? Not to say that one phase is better than another, just different.


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    7. black jack on Mon, March 09, 2009

      I wrote a post on how church software re-enforces the “participation” model for measuring success. This is the model Willow Creek uses and found lacking.


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    8. dll on Mon, March 23, 2009

      Reveal included the results from 7 additional congregations as well.


      But, the largest sample was Willow’s own.  It will be interesting to see what is learned from the larger sample being gathered right now.

    9. vancl on Thu, March 26, 2009

      It looks like Willow Creek is still heading down a troubling path. At their upcoming 2008 “Shift” conference at Willow Creek for young people, Bill Hybels is featuring apostate Brian McLaren as keynote speaker.


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