From Our MMI Exit Poll: 80% of You Voted for McCain… Now What?
- Posted by: Todd
- Posted on: Wed, November 05, 2008
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What are your thoughts this morning? Do you think this election will really have that big of an impact, positive or negative, on your life and ministry?
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Eric Joppa on Wed, November 05, 2008
I agree that this is a huge and historic moment for our nation. But a troubling one at that. I would hesitate to say that racism was at work in this election, but race was a factor. There can be no denying that record numbers of African-American voters turned out to the polls. I know African-Americans that are totally opposed to his politics, yet voted for him because he was black.
I had a conversation with someone who was excited that Obama might become President. They remarked that it would be a great step forward for our nation. My thought is that, while race does not disqualify one for the office, it is not and should not be a qualifier. I believe, in the eyes of many, it was.
As for our “big step” forward, I think our country would have elected Colin Powell president when he ran, but he pulled out after his family asked him to. They feared he would be assassinated. Yet, I know many who were ready to vote for him, and I believe, he would have won.
I think our country has taken a big step… toward Socialism. This president does not agree with our constitution as it stands and wants to change our nation “fundamentally.” Our constitution is our fundamental foundation. I am afraid of Obama. not because he is black, not only because he is unknown, but because the little that is actually known is dangerous at best.
We will see just how much influence Jeremiah Wright has had on good ol’ Barry.
My word is progress33…interesting
-E
Greg on Wed, November 05, 2008
Historic moment indeed. Nonetheless, for a man who voted to deny a botched abortion baby any medical care, at that point, who really cares what his skin color is? White, black? Yes it is a moment of great progession for our country. Let us be thankful for that. But after all the celebration has come and gone we’re right back to the issues of what President-elect Obama stands for and what he values. If he does not value the things of God (and I’m not saying he does or does not) how can we sit by and do nothing? We need to speak out against anything that displeases God - including abortion. Let us pray hard that God will move in Mr. Obama’s life and the lives of all the people he promotes to his cabinet. Whether you liked or didn’t like President Bush at the very least you had to appreciate a man who would get up each morning and seek God’s wisdom.
Cindy K on Wed, November 05, 2008
I might have a weird outlook on all this but isn’t it a beautiful thing that the majority of people aren’t celebrating the fact that we have our first black President? Isn’t it GREAT that they are saying “Oh ya, he’s black.”
The fact that his ‘blackness’ is a footnote or an afterthought testifies to the fact that for the most part we’re getting past it!
We need to get past that! We need to not give a darn if our president is black, or orange, or whatever color you want to pick. http://www.mondaymorninginsight.com/images/smileys/smile.gif
I like to believe that the color of his skin was not a factor at all in this election. Yes, I’m naive but that’s what I want to believe. http://www.mondaymorninginsight.com/images/smileys/smile.gif
And how will my life change now? Not one bit. God is in charge as usual. http://www.mondaymorninginsight.com/images/smileys/smile.gif
DanielR on Wed, November 05, 2008
Jim, from your comment it sounds to me like you are in that tiny part of the electorate that is so ignorant as to be completely out of touch with reality and incapable of making a rational choice and that you should probably leave politics to those who can make a choice not clouded by delusion and irrational paranoia. http://www.mondaymorninginsight.com/images/smileys/grin.gif
Obama is not the antichrist and he’s not a socialist. His tax plan is almost identical to Bill Clinton’s and it didn’t destroy the country then. And I find it hard to believe any business owners are stupid enough to already be planning on laying people off, before they’ve even finished counting the votes and way before any changes in tax policy, so I don’t think you’re being truthful here.
When asked “Is health care in America a privilege, a right, or a responsibility?” Obama said it’s a right of every citizen to have good healthcare and McCain said that healthcare should be affordable but that it’s every persons responsibility to pay for their own healthcare, whether in cash or thru insurance.
Does anyone really believe some people just don’t deserve to be able to see a doctor when they need to? I believe access to healthcare is and should be a right of every citizen, and the only way to accomplish that is for government to set it up. If that’s a single-payer socialist type system or subsidized health insurance type system or whatever, I’m not an expert and I don’t care what they do as long as it works. McCain’s plan to give everyone who had health insurance $5,000 was not going to get insurance for that many more people. It would have benefited me greatly because I have insurance and it would have helped pay for it, but for those without insurance $5,000 is less than half the cost for a family policy so they would still have to come up with between $5,000 and $7,000 on their own. That would still leave a lot of people without healthcare.
As for the rest of your rant, all I can say is please, please get help. And stay on your medication. http://www.mondaymorninginsight.com/images/smileys/grin.gif
And Eric, you say Obama doesn’t agree with our constitution and wants to change it. Where do you get that? Republican rumor central? All I can say is it’s a good thing the President CANNOT change the constitution or President Bush would have re-written it completely.
Talk about buyers remorse, I have experienced plenty of that the last 8 years.
Voting for Obama was a risk, he IS different than any candidate I’ve ever supported, but it was a risk I was willing to take.
Eric Joppa on Wed, November 05, 2008
Daniel,
Obama is actually a socialist if only with a different name. the democratic party has long been treading toward that line. Redistributing 95% of the money made to those that did not make as much is a Socialist idea. If you did any study of political party politics and looked at his proposals through that lens, you would have no choice but to understand that.
As far as my support of him or non support as it were, My bottom line is this. Barry Obama does not believe in the right to life. He would not even grant medical care to a baby that is the victim of a botched abortion. This is especially personal to me as I lost a child, did not abort, lost. she according to him is not worthy of life enough that he would legislate to allow her murder. There is a severe lack of moral ethics that is mind boggling to me that ANY Christian would vote for someone like that.
Talk about putting lipstick on a pig…
DanielR on Wed, November 05, 2008
Eric, you seem very jaded about this issue. Obama says he believes every abortion is a tragedy and that we need to reduce abortion by attacking poverty, educating people about contraception, and addressing other factors that contribute to women considering and choosing abortion.
Do you think he’s lying? Do you think Obama really likes abortion and wants there to be more abortions, not less?
McCain was not going to outlaw abortion if he got elected. He would never be able to get a federal abortion ban thru congress; even if he could stack the Supreme Court to uphold it. I don’t think the Republican Party really wants a solution to the abortion issue, they want to keep the issue alive to divide people into “us and them”.
Brent H on Wed, November 05, 2008
Eric,
Please check facts before ranting. Obama voted against BAIPA b/c there was already a law on the books that gave infants that protection. To say that Obama would not want the life of a child saved is cruel and untrue. See this website…
http://fightthesmears.com/articles/15/wildaccusations
Also, this statement…“Redistributing 95% of the money made to those that did not make as much is a Socialist idea” makes no sense. Are you saying Obama will raise the government tax to 95% (a ridiculous accusation)?
I don’t mind having discussion about issues and candidates, but let’s try and keep our arguments on the side of truth, without false accusations and propaganda.
Brent
Jim on Wed, November 05, 2008
Daniel, your name calling is irritating at least, but mostly shows your lack of awareness on many levels. Does Obama want more abortions? Lets see: he want to federally fund it, he wants to use federal law to supercede state laws that outlaw abortions, and he and his party want to fine doctors who won’t perform abortions, as well as making abortion acceptance as one of the qualifications for getting accepted into medical schools. So, what assumption would you come to? I do know these things are facts; I’m in the mental health/medical field. In fact, a friend of mine, our former Congressman, told me of a bill that is still buried in committee in Washington, but could come up for a vote because it was not killed, that would allow a woman to abort a child up until two years of age, if the child was causing her to much life style change. I know you won’t believe that, but your lack of acceptance shows that you’re as blind to this man’s agenda as are his other minions.
What is most scarey Daniel, is that if you read the Declaration of Independence, the very first Unalienable Right granted by God and recognized by our Founders is?............LIFE! So, this man is going to swear to uphold the Constitution, but his position on the lives of the unborn negates his official oath of office even before he takes it.
Katrina on Wed, November 05, 2008
Leonard,
Can I use your first post in my next open-air message?
Katrina on Wed, November 05, 2008
Ed,
I believe that Darwinism has added fuel to the racism that has existed for hundreds of years. If you are a believer, then I will tell you with passion and conviction that you are my brother. You and I have the same skin color. We are not of different races since we both come from the same original parents: Adam and Eve. The mapping of the human genome has revealed that every “people group” on the planet has descended from the same mother. The genetic differences between you and me represent about .06% of our entire genetic makeup. The only difference in our skin color is the concentration of melanine…that’s it. I did not support Obama because of my Biblical worldview but like Leonard said…he is MY president also and I will give my life to defend this country as well as MY president. I will pray for him and I will fight him when I think he is wrong but I wish him the best and I truly hope he is a bigger success than he already is.
Leonard on Wed, November 05, 2008
Katrina, I would love to say yes but I do so only if you use it in the Spirit in which I wrote it. Thanks for asking.
Leonard
Ed on Wed, November 05, 2008
Katrina, I appreciate your comments. And, yes, I am a believer in Jesus (his person and work, according to evangelical theology).
Although I choose to reserve the right to not reveal who I voted for, I will say this that I do not agree with everything that President-elect Obama stands for, but I too will be praying for him and his cabinet.
CS on Wed, November 05, 2008
I had a few messages with a Canadian friend of mine, and he brought out a good point. On November 3rd, we were saying, “enemy, enemy,” to each other, and then on November 5th, we’re supposed to be saying, “unity, unity.” How can there be that sort of unity so quickly, especially when both sides were convinced that the other was wrong 48 hours earlier?
The fact is, we’re ignoring many things here. Just look at people who are so upset about Prop 8 in California. They’re railing against the voting system. But why aren’t we saying, “unity, unity,” here?
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CS
Dave Z on Wed, November 05, 2008
DanielR wrote: “Does anyone really believe some people just don’t deserve to be able to see a doctor when they need to? I believe access to healthcare is and should be a right of every citizen, and the only way to accomplish that is for government to set it up. “
Daniel, I take issue with the word “deserve,” which is synonomous with “earn.” What have all these people done to “earn” health care? I earn the money to pay for my health care, therefore I deserve it. Maybe you don’t mean “deserve.”
Also, has your concern for people who don’t have health care prompted you to give out of your own pocket for them to have health care?
Also, elevating health care to a “right” is to introduce a fundamentally different concept than what is laid out in the Bill of Rights. Free speech, freedom of assembly, freedom of religion, etc. None of these involve collecting money. To make health care a “right” (which I don’t think you really mean - a right to health care, if of a similar nature to our other rights, just means that the government cannot prevent access to health care - in that sense we already have the right to health care) means that someone has to pay for it. By your definition, the right to keep and bear arms means the government has to give me free guns. I want a .357 auto. Howzabout you buy that for me, because I have a right to bear arms?
I understand the compassion that wants everyone to be able to see a doctor (by the way, right now, today, anyone CAN see a doctor in the ER - it’s illegal to turn someone away) but I just don’t think you’ve thought this through.
BTW, did anyone notice in the second debate that Obama said his plan places a large emphasis on prevention? Then, a bit later he mentioned “mandatory cancer screenings.” So now we can look forward to the government mandating our health care according to their standards? Will we be fined if we miss an appointment? I have not heard anyone discuss this anywhere.
Dave Z
Jeremy McKinzey on Thu, November 06, 2008
I cannot believe that America voted for this man. But it shows how blind they are to the truths of scripture. I pray that this man who is our President will be forced to his knees in repentance. I pray that this country will turn back to Christ. I pray that Christ will hold his children in his hands firmly and tightly. I pray that this country gets what it deserves. WHat many people do not understand, we just handed ourselves a death sentence for putting this man in office.
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