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From Our MMI Exit Poll: 80% of You Voted for McCain… Now What?

Posted by: Todd
Posted on: Wed, November 05, 2008
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What are your thoughts this morning? Do you think this election will really have that big of an impact, positive or negative, on your life and ministry?

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JHPW on Fri, November 07, 2008

I, too, am disappointed in the response at the non-denominational Christian school my children attend. After the election results were in, the junior high and high school students started texting each other to wear black to school the next day to mourn the loss of their country. Faculty members made off-handed comments in front of students about moving out of the United States. In my daugher’s history class, not one word was said about the election, not even acknowledging the historical nature of it. Kind of sad, if you ask me.
DanielR on Fri, November 07, 2008

Dave Z, I hope and pray that Barack Obama does not have the radical leftist agenda that some claim. I keep hearing about stuff he said and votes he cast and when I dig into it I find the claims are not true.

Obama says he was against “live birth” law in Illinois because it sought to change the definition of “infant” and would have resulted in chaos when the new definition was used to challenge existing abortion laws.

I don’t know what Obama has in his heart but I find it hard to believe anyone would support killing a viable infant born alive during an abortion, certainly not anyone in politics.

What I do know is that was already a law in Illinois that protected viable infants who were “born alive” during an abortion procedure. Illinois compiled statute 720 ILCS 510/6 states that physicians performing abortions when the fetus is viable must use the procedure most likely to preserve the fetus’ life; must be attended by another physician who can care for a born-alive infant; and must “exercise the same degree of professional skill, care and diligence to preserve the life and health of the child as would be required of a physician providing immediate medical care to a child born alive in the course of a pregnancy termination which was not an abortion.”

I look to what he said in the debate:

The last point I want to make is on the issue of abortion. This is an issue that—look, it divides us. And in some ways, it may be difficult to—to reconcile the two views.

But there surely is some common ground when both those who believe in choice and those who are opposed to abortion can come together and say, “We should try to prevent unintended pregnancies by providing appropriate education to our youth, communicating that sexuality is sacred and that they should not be engaged in cavalier activity, and providing options for adoption, and helping single mothers if they want to choose to keep the baby.”

I think he expressed clearly what many Americans, pro-choice and pro-life, believe: We should try much harder than we have to reduce the number of abortions in our country.

In the 12 years of Republican government from 1981 to 1992, abortions increased. Under a Democratic administration, the abortion rate declined for eight straight years from 1992 to 2000. And under the current administration the abortion rate decreased slightly (0.8%) for three years and then the Bush administration stopped publishing abortion statistics. By comparison, the abortion rate declined by 3.4% per year in the early and mid-1990s and 14% overall between 1992 and 2000. Was this because Clinton focused on reducing abortion? No, it was because he focused on reducing poverty and increasing education and these things lead to a reduction in abortion.
Stewart on Sun, November 09, 2008

Some of the venom in the comments coming from the McCain side really hurt. The condescending attitudes from some, naivety from others and out and out racism from a few are frustrating. Unfortunately they mask what I feel sure is very reasoned disagreement from the majority. I would also suggest that the arrogance with which the “evangelical” community has condemned the country to hell for voting for Obama is harming and will damage efforts to reach out to non-Christian America for years and years to come.

A couple of points that really get me riled up…

The US Constitution and Bill of Rights are not the Bible.

If Obama is a socialist for suggesting that Joe the Plumber needs to share because he makes over 250,000 dollars a year… yikes. I remember someone else who talked about rich people needing to “share”. His name was Jesus. Was Jesus a socialist?

Get over the abortion thing. Abortion is terrible. But there are legitimate differences of opinion about how best to eliminate it. For what it’s worth, McCain did not take an Anti-Abortion stand either. In the debate, he suggested it should be a states rights issue; that’s his beef with Roe v Wade. Think about that long and hard.

Republicans: Please stop telling those of us who voted for Obama that we lack a “biblical worldview”. Neither candidate was offering a “biblical worldview” (whatever that is?) and even if they had I’m not sure any of us would recognize it. We all see dimly. To suggest otherwise is to fail to take seriously the attitude of Christ.

Okay. Rant over. I waited until this post was almost off the radar before responding because I was so frustrated with the response of the Evangelical right.
Rev. Donald E. Paul Jr. on Mon, November 10, 2008

I did not vote for Mr. Obama because of some policies he has outlined. But the effect of him being President of the United States will have a minimal effect on the body of Christ if we do as the Bible says yes it says to pray for our leaders and we should do just that but the Bible says IF MY PEOPLE WHO ARE CALLED BY MY NAME SHALL HUMBLE THEMSELVES AND PRAY AND SEEK MY FACE THEN I WILL HEAR FROM HEAVEN AND WILL HEAL THEIR LANDS… Far to often we place responsibility on the leaders of the land for choices they have made but the time has come when knees should be bowed and every tongue in the body of Christ confess that he is Lord. We don’t do that we have become part of the worlld we’re not just in the world as the bible says so take responsibility church because that is where it lies with the fate of this country humble yourselves and pray
LARRY C on Mon, November 10, 2008

Thank the Lord for 20%. And thank the Lord for the 80% who didn’t have their preference—but will support our new leadership in prayer and love.

Maybe now we can truely make the main thing the main thing in our hearts, lives, and ministries.
Edward White on Mon, November 10, 2008

All this talk of socialism…it is the present Republican regime that has just nationalized our major banks. The Republican party used to be the party fiscal responsibility. President Bush has run up a deficit of ten trillion dollars in just eight years and I believe has mortgaged the futureof our children. We’re still mired in an immoral and senseless war in Iraq that has cost countless lives.My prayers will be nswered if Obama can bring even a modicum of sense out of this madness.
Al on Tue, November 11, 2008

My thoughts are negative both short term and long.

The Long has to do with the appointment of Supreme Court Judges who will rule from the bench regardless of the will of the people.

The short term is that the slaughter of 4,500 a day in the abortion mills will continue

Our hedge of protection grows thin
Leonard on Tue, November 11, 2008

AL,

I think to lay at the feet of Democrats abortion is something that Republicans have done for a long time. However of the four justices who were for RvW 3 were appointed by republican presidents.

I only say this because your pose seems to insinuate that Obama will be the cause of Abortion in this country. Sorry if I misunderstood you.

I am not an Obama supporter, I just think republicans are blind to some history and process and they need to rethink their tired… worn out… lines of Democrats are pro gay, pro abortion liberals who will destroy America. Get a fresh vision and a clear voice on where we are going and lets go there.

My belief is that republicans lost not because of their politics are inferior but because they lacked the ability to inspire Americans to hope and a better future. Obama did this and won.
David Robinson on Tue, November 11, 2008

Barack is the consummate politician and won becasue he set up an effective base which accumulated sufficient money and media support to win. He will be very interested in keeping his base happy with what ever he can do. But what if his base support was very Christian? What if all those who voted for him insisted that he be the best supporter of human rights and human life issues? What if we offered better support than Planned Parenthood and the National Abotion Rights League? He can be changed!