What Do You Think Of This Pastor’s Prayer
- Posted by: Todd
- Posted on: Tue, October 14, 2008
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What do you think of this pastor's prayer. Do you think God is not, Himself, keenly aware of his reputation?
What do you think?
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ken buck on Tue, October 14, 2008
It further drives me away from the midwest, republicans and the broader evangelical movement.
sid on Tue, October 14, 2008
Why oh why do we forget that the responsibility is to preach Christ and him crucified.
But instead we are consumed with the trappings of power and prestige and personal agenda that traps us into believing that the political system is going to save “America” (which really means us). Just one more reason for people to think the Jesus I proclaim isn’t interested in them.
Geoff on Tue, October 14, 2008
It seems to me that this kind of praying is what makes me gag as a christian. It is full of the attitude that says “I’m right, so your wrong”
It’s as if we can only be true believers is we believe what, in this case, the pastor believes. Sure leaves a sense of arrogance that I for one don’t really like or want in my faith.
God is more aware of things than we are! Our responsibility is to pray for His will, and not to try and “influence” what his will is.
Can’t believe I said we try to influence God’s will… but I guess we try to sometimes.
Thanks for your post, love your blog.
fishon on Tue, October 14, 2008
Bruce,
I am guessing then that you never heard the Rev v v Jessie or Rev v v Al speak in churches as they ran for President? I am guessing you never heard some of the preachers of those churches pray?
The Rep. do not have a exclusive hold on such prayers {wink-wink}.
fishon
Peter Hamm on Tue, October 14, 2008
Seems only a little disjointed, maybe not totally thought out, and even silly to me. This is why if I ever pray in public, I’m gonna write it all down first.
Dave Z on Tue, October 14, 2008
fishon, do you know this guy or something? You sound personally offended.
fishon on Tue, October 14, 2008
Dave Z,
Nope, don’t know the guy, nor have I ever heard of him.
Nope, not personally offended.
Just reacting to your long stretch of assumptions.
When you write things like:::“He seems to have some inside info that Obama, despite his clear claims, is not really a believer,”————-and NOT A WORD was mentioned or inferred of that, it makes me wonder about your agenda?
Personally, there is a very good chance that I will not be voting for a Presidental Candidate. Both of them are liars. How anyone can get excited about either guy is beyond me. They both promise the moon, and we know neither can deliever, and yet people fall all over them. Beyond me.
fishon
Wendi Hammond on Tue, October 14, 2008
Fishon – I liken this Pastor’s prayer to the prayer of the Pharisee in Luke 18. The prayer was intended for the human audience, to make a point. This is an unrighteous prayer. Before recording Jesus’ words of the parable, doctor Luke says, “To some who were confident of their own righteousness and looked down on everybody else, Jesus told this parable . . .”
Wendi
fishon on Wed, October 15, 2008
Wendi,
You may be JUDGING the preachers motives rightly. His motives for the prayer might be as you state, “...intended for the human audience….” Then again, maybe not.
I sure do hope you will not say of me, ‘That’s very judgmental, fishon. Who are you to judge their motives of…,?’ the next time I point out what I believe the motives of someone we discuss in this blog room.
fishon
vidyo on Wed, October 15, 2008
I believe that is a prayer that is called freedom to worship as we please. That prayer may not be appropriate for that setting.
Mike on Wed, October 15, 2008
While I think that Obama will be a complete disaster as a president, it is absurd to suggest that God must allow McCain to win to protect his reputation. God doesn’t have anything to prove. That’s what being a sovereign God is all about.
We need to remember that God is not wringing his hands, worrying about this particular election.
fishon on Wed, October 15, 2008
Mike,
I’m just guessing, but I doubt if the preacher really thinks God’s reputation is at stake.
I remember in 1984, when Brigham Young Univ. won the National College Football Championship, there was more than a few Mormons who claimed God was on their side and Brigham Young winning was proof of God’s favor.
Again, I am just guessing, but I think the issue is that millions of Hindus and Muslims are praying to their god[s] that Obama wins, and this guys does not want them to think their god[s] are the true god[s].
I have more thoughts, but will let it go.
fishon
Tom on Mon, October 20, 2008
The Lord says in Proverbs 6 that there are 6 things He hates and yes 7 that are an abomination to Him. #3 on that list is “hands that shed innocent blood” (v17). My question is what is more “innocent” than a child in its mothers womb? I have not nor will I ever vote for a candidate that endorses abortion on demand. While I personally would have liked a different choice in this presidential election, and would consider myself more of an Independent than I would a Republican, I find it difficult to understand how a Christian politician could align themselves with a platform of their party that would affirm things such as gay marraige and aborrtion on demand.
I’m not writing this to affirm this man’s prayer but rather to simply say I’m confused to the McCail / Republican bashing on here. I’m not sure that was what Todd asked when he asked what we thought of the man’s prayer. That being said - I cannot understand how ANY God-fearing believer would choose to vote for Obama given the 2 social issues mentioned above, given his being staunchly opposed to a parental notification law, given that he voted several times to withhold necessary medical care for infants who survive a botched abortion ( I know what he SAYS about their already bein a law on the book but I’d encourage you to research it for yourselves. The law he references did not give the protections he implies it did), given that for 20 years he sat willingly under the hate-filled racist “preaching” of “Rev Wright” ...
Tom on Mon, October 20, 2008
Should have proofed the post .. should be McCain http://www.mondaymorninginsight.com/images/smileys/grin.gif
Linda Hart on Mon, October 20, 2008
I think nothing of it. As with all things in America, people must draw sharp lines, this is one of those instances.
Even though We are preceived as the greast nation in the world, we are sick to the core. The main problem being hate of race. It carrys over into the church. As humans we all share the same needs; food, water air clothing, medical. Is that so hard to understand.
Irregardless of who is the next president, he needs to be a strong leader, with a level head and just. As for this minister, he is doing what most ministers have done, put a block out and most people to turn away from the church. (stop believing)
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