Jack - when a Mormon produces good deeds “fruit” - might it be their God image leaking out???

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John 336 writes… [1) Rick Warren is a public figure with books written that need to be judge on their worthiness by comparison to what the Bible states.] Yes he is, and I think you’re right about the need to judge his books based on that comparison. Have you done this? By your own admission, no. Perhaps this disqualifies you from this debate in this fashion… I myself (and others here) have read PDC and PDL and I have a pretty good understanding of the Word (for myself having been a Christ-follower for a quarter-century and others as long or longer no doubt) and I have not found his work to be anti-Christian or heretical, as keeps being brought up.

Anyway, Todd’s gonna kick us all out ‘da room when he gets back. We have NOT played nice with each other. The whole RW/anti-RW debate has been done before, we’ve been warned off it, and my fervent prayer is that Todd will remove all these comments (including mine) if he feels the slightest inclination.

And Nora, I too think that RW can change the world… and you can, and I can. Heck, even BEHIM can! (BeHim knows I love him...)

Peter I’ve got a copy of PDL which I use to review in context the claims made by his detractors as well as proponents. Have I read the whole thing, NO. But please get off this bent view that one must consume an entire rotten egg before one can aptly discuss that it was rotten - it is utter nonsense. The first time I tried to read it I was unable to because it had such a self-centered feel to it, despite his claim at the beginning that it is not about us, but rather it is about God.Greater minds than I have spoken loudly and conclusively on the problems with the teachings of Warren yet there are those who will see out of a genuine desire to seek the Truth, and there are those who unfortunately, and I mean that with all sincerity Peter, unfortunately are unable to see it or unwilling to see it because of any number of reasons.Several years ago I would have been in the middle group, but by the grace and mercy of God I was awakened to the truth and took the time to examine some of what PDL and Warren teach and also what he says publicly which is often even more alarming.But I digress. Let’s watch Sunday night and see what happens.

Enough.

I step away for one day, and some take advantage.

This is not a Rick Warren Bashing Forum.

We’ve been through this before guys, and you are disrespecting and taking advantage of this forum.

The post was simply an announcement of the Fox special.  Watch it or don’t watch it; it’s up to you.

But please ignore comments from BeHim, Jack, John 3:36 and others who try to take away from our discussion here at MMI about innovative ministry ideas.

Actually, comments will now be strictly moderated; so you may not have to ignore them after all. 

If you feel you must save people from the wickedness of Rick Warren, by all means, please do so; but do not feel free to use this forum.  It is no longer available to you.

Todd

Thanks, Marc,

He’s got a way with words. When I hear him talk about ending extreme poverty (or when I hear Bono talking about it, for that matter...) he makes me feel like it’s possible to do, and even that it’s inevitable. (Funny, Bono and Rick both even use the same example when they talk about it, they talk about JFK’s pledge to go to the moon, which was considered naive and mad at the time.)

I’ve seen some conflicting info on the time of this interview, though. I’ve seen 8pm and 10pm (both from the Fox site). Anybody know which it really is?

Peter

This is very interesting, and sounds like something very much worth checking out.

--RC of strangeculture.blogspot.com

Here’s a (long) clip of a Charlie Rose show in which he directly asks RW “THE QUESTION” (as referred to on page one of these posts) and Rick responds.  Also an interesting interview with Gregory Boyd (The Myth of a Christian Nation)

Here’s the link - you may need to copy and paste it into your browser.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5555324196046364882&q=tvshow:Charlie_Rose&pr=goog-sl

Dave

Yes, thank you, Dave, for that link.  I also found Warren’s response to the “question” to be very good, and I found nothing to criticize—and much to praise—in it.  The interview as a whole was very inspiring, and I think it is obvious that RW has been blessed with wisdom and insight concerning the global culture.  I hope and pray that God richly blesses his efforts to expand the Kingdom.

It wasn’t an interview (if you’re talking about the Fox thing) as much as an info-tainment fluff piece. No way to know how he “handled” himself, since it was so heavily edited. It was a disappointment in that way, but I still find Rick inspiring when he reminds me that together, we all CAN change the world, and are called to, in a sense…

Marc said:
“The FOX News website has an interesting video with Warren describing his P.E.A.C.E. plan—you can watch it here, and they even have a bit of a discussion board going:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,208468,00.html “

I watched the link, but nothing else.  On the suface, it looks real good.  I wonder about the devil in the details,,, implies Rick is willing to partner with the Jews and Muslim’s, as well as Christians, to make it happen...???

...Bernie