Chuck Swindoll Dropped from Radio Network for “Crude, Vulgar, From the Gutter” Language

Orginally published on Tuesday, May 29, 2007 at 6:30 AM
by Todd Rhoades

Huh, Chuck Swindoll? Yes that's not a typo. It seems even Chuck Swindoll has been not been able to pass the Christian censors at the VCY Radio Network. Last week, VCY released a statement telling why they have dropped Swindoll from their stations. Among the bad words Chuck has used since 2000 (yes, they've been keeping a tally for 7 years now): buns, heck, crap, balls, and also for mentioning (and encouraging the viewing of) the Lion King.

Here’s part of the release:

“Since 1979 VCY America has aired Insight For Living. Increasingly over recent years, VCY has been concerned about the content and direction of the IFL broadcasts with Chuck Swindoll. Through the years we have had multiple conversations with IFL regarding objections to content in their broadcasts. It is VCY’s position that certain language and illustrations used have been crude, vulgar, and from the gutter and have no place on Christian radio.

While the listing below is not exhaustive, it does give a representation of VCY’s objections that have resulted in the termination of the broadcast.

The decision to bring termination to the IFL program arrived on March 5, 2007. VCY and listeners were highly offended by Chuck Swindoll’s use of crude and uncalled for language. His message was entitled, “Male Leadership 101” which was a presentation given to men at his church. Although a disclaimer was given at the beginning of the program, Swindoll had a sustained laugh as he stated had he known this would be on radio at the time of speaking he probably would have changed things around because he tends to be “a little loose and a little free.” But he says he found “people appreciate that”. The specific area of offense came when Chuck stated:

“The sons of Issachar understood their times, they were men who had discernment and the sons of Issachar were men who had direction. They could make decisions. They saw through all the fluff of that culture. They stood strong when others were fading in the shadows. Patton would say they had guts. You’d say at work, they had balls. Or maybe that’s a Greek rendering of another verse.” (Laughter)

It is VCY’s position that this language is gutter talk, is crude, and vulgar. VCY stated to IFL that such language is uncalled for, is unbecoming a pastor, and is inappropriate for our listeners.

Within moments of this broadcast, a businessman contacted VCY who uses this station as a witnessing tool. He keeps VCY playing in his office so those who visit him will hear. He told VCY he was very upset by this IFL program and if he wanted vulgar language he would put on secular talk radio. VCY can only agree with this anger and frustration.

Knowing this was Part 1 of a message, VCY pre-listened to the March 6, 2007 broadcast. In this message Chuck Swindoll addressed accountability, sensitivity, purity and integrity. These virtues were compromised when he spoke the following:

“The battle still goes on. It will never end. In fact I had my physical the other day and Cooper who has a finger that long (pause and lots of laughter), that long (continued laughter). And while he was up in there said, ‘Now that’s your prostate.’ I said (Swindoll yells) ‘I know that’. Was this anatomy class? (Laughter). He’s a very sick man. (Laughter). Got through prostate, checked out great. I bragged about that to Cynthia about three hours. ‘I’ve got a great prostate.’ She said, ‘get a life, honey.’” (Laughter)

VCY finds it unacceptable to broadcast Chuck Swindoll’s re-counting of the length of the finger of his doctor and describing it in his body while checking his prostate. This is both crude and offensive.

While the issues presented on the March 5th and 6th broadcast brought the ultimate decision to terminate the program, these were not the only concerns VCY has expressed to IFL. Beginning in the year 2000, there was a national boycott of Disney led by the American Family Association, Focus on the Family, Southern Baptist Convention, etc. Christian broadcasters all over the country were giving warnings regarding the homosexual promotion such as gay days, gay-friendly issues and other depraved issues being promoted by Disney. While this boycott was going on, Insight For Living took another position. The November 20, 2000 IFL program promoted “The Lion King” (produced by Disney) using it as an illustration. Chuck Swindoll stated on this broadcast,

“Now I could ruin the rest of the story for you, but rather than doing that, I’ll urge you to go down to your local video store and rent for yourself, ‘The Lion King’”.

At that time VCY addressed concern to IFL pointing out that researchers who reviewed this movie stated that the one who anoints Simba as king, was Rafiki, who happens to be a witch doctor. Rafiki carries his magical pack on the top of his staff. Viewers are taught throughout the movie that you can align yourself with witchcraft to overcome evil. It is also pointed out that the movie promotes talking to the dead (necromancy). VCY questioned IFL why they would be promoting Disney when so many Christian ministries were warning against it and were participating in a national boycott. No official response came to VCY’s inquiry, only that “the comment would be passed on.”

On the January 3, 2001 edition of IFL Chuck Swindoll used an illustration of Art Linkletter talking to a boy whose father is a police officer. Art asked if the boy’s mother was bothered by this, the boy responded and Chuck emphasized, “Heck, No!”. A couple moments later Chuck again made great emphasis, “Heck, No!”. VCY contacted IFL stating “heck” is slang for “hell” and that listeners were offended by this. The IFL representative assured VCY they’d pass our comment on.

Again VCY contacted IFL on February 5, 2001 regarding that day’s program. Chuck used an illustration from a regular column he reads from “Sports Illustrated” magazine written by Rick Riley. This particular issue’s column was entitled, “Speaking of Class to the Class of ‘98”. Chuck’s illustration dealt with the topic of “perspective”. Before he read the quote he said, “I won’t read it all, but it’s really worth these excerpts.” The offense came when Chuck quoted this portion of the magazine,

“Be careful with your money, write your own checks, none of this power of attorney crap. Get an agent and a lawyer and tell each, the other is a crook. (Laughter) That’s perspective.”

VCY alerted IFL that day that the word, “crap” is crude, uncalled for and offensive and should not to be used in a Christian’s vocabulary, let alone come from a pulpit and broadcast all over the country. VCY stated to IFL that this term Chuck used did not pass the test of Ephesians 4:29.

On February 11, 2001 a personal meeting was held between members of VCY and those which represent IFL to review the various concerns raised. This was followed up by a personal visit of an IFL representative to VCY in late February of 2001.

On August 23, 2001 again VCY brought to the attention of IFL an offending illustration. On that program, Chuck told of the fun they were having on Ben Yahuda Street in Israel and said,

“One of our men said the funniest things that I heard on the trip. He said, ‘I don’t know what the big deal is about all the clothes people bring with them on a trip.’ He said, ‘I’ve solved the underwear problem. In fact, I now carry 1/4th the underwear I used to carry.’ He was telling us things we really didn’t need to know… He said, ‘Actually you can get four times the wear out of every pair of underwear. So simple.’ And, we of course were hanging on these words wondering what he had in mind. He said, ‘Look, it’s simple: right side out, wrong side out, frontward and backwards. You can just wear the same one for’-I noticed toward the end of the second week, no one was sitting next to this guy. (Laughter) There’s just something about it that turns you off.”

Chuck continued with his clothing illustration to bring the point that “clothing polishes the image, but it doesn’t polish the character.” It is VCY’s position that this illustration had no business being on this national Bible teaching program.

On September 5, 2001 VCY again contacted IFL regarding that day’s program on which Chuck Swindoll calls into question a literal interpretation of Genesis for a six day, 24-hour day creation. On that program he stated,

“On what day did He make the sun? It was the fourth day. So for three full creative days or eras of days, however you might handle that. For three solid periods of time there was light, but there was no sun…But what’s interesting to me is that the light that came upon this earth, for a period of who knows how long, did not come from the sun. Where did it come from?”

In this message IFL called into question a literal six-day, 24-hour day creation. IFL responded that he wasn’t teaching on creation at this point and that his “brief comments are to be taken in the context of an illustration rather than a doctrinal teaching.”

There’s more here (if you really want to read it)...

And a really good response to the press release here...

FOR DISCUSSION:  Any thoughts?  Would you be in favor of a Chuck Swindoll banning and book burning?  What do you think Ingrid says when she hits her finger with a hammer?

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  • Posted by

    For yea, hey, yo and verily, hath Charles transgressed the law of the contemporary North American Taliban; therefore now, Mr. Swindoll, bendest thee over thatest I might smite thine derriere with reeds constructed of varnished left-over pages from the epistles of John Q. Walvoord. And goest thou now to thine corner where thou shalt read back copies of Bibliotheca Sacra until thou repentest of thine ways.

  • Posted by

    Here go again Pharisees vs Sadducees, when will we ever learn? Forgive us!

  • Posted by

    I don’t know what bible you’re all reading in America, but my bible in Australia says in Colossians 3:8 - “But now you yourselves are to PUT OFF all of these: anger,wrath,malice,blasphemy, FILTHY LANGUAGE OUT OF YOUR MOUTH”. Umm, isn’t God’s Word, God’s WORD??? It can’t be any clearer than that!! So I suggest you READ that word! That should be yours/my standard. Not a person. Not their popularity. Not their radio ministry. Unless you’re all calling God’s word a lie???? I

  • Posted by

    No one is calling God’s word a lie. The point that has been made, and made rather well, is that the standard of what is filth and what is not filth is completely subjective. Thankfully, we have wonderful people such as the VCY who are willing to be the Thought Police for us so that we don’t have to listen to the Spirit ourselves. To quote Derek Webb, “Don’t teach me how to live like a free man, just give me a new law”

  • Posted by

    And I can see just how much Christian charity is being practiced by the good and decent people here.  No, nobody is judging her heart, calling her a Pharisee, making rude comments, condemning her, questioning her walk with Christ...and I certainly noticed, over at her blog “Slice of Laodicea,” how many of you have gone over there to discuss it quietly and privately with her.

    Yes, nobody here is playing “Thought Police,” deciding for me and others like me what we may or may not consider offensive.  We’re not allowed to be more sensitive than the crudest among you--but that’s not setting a standard all your own.  Ohhhhh, no.

    (Could you hear the sarcasm? If not, you may need to read it over again.)

    You know, if I have to choose for my brethren between those who refuse outright to engage in that all-so-crucial “dialogue,” and those who sing the praises of “dialogue” and simply don’t engage in it when it suits them not to...I think I’ll choose the ones who AREN’T hypocrites, thanks.

    Oh, and incidentally, if this comment doesn’t make it into your blog, that’s your prerogative, but we’ll all be aware of just how interested you are in discussion...because I’m also posting it at sliceoflaodicea.com.

  • Posted by

    Go for it, Mrs. Pilgrim.  I haven’t deleted any comments on this post as of yet. 



  • Posted by

    Subjective? The word of God is NOT subjective for a true christian. Colossians 4: 6 - “Let your speech always be with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer each one”.
    Ecclesiastes 10:12 - “The words pf a wise man’s mouth are gracious, but the lips of a fool shall swallow him up”.
    Proverbs 4:24 - “Put AWAY from you a deceitful/devious mouth, and put perverse lips far from you”.
    Proverbs 10:19 - “In the multitude of words sin is not lacking, but he who RESTRAINS his lips is wise”.
    Proverbs 12:13 - “The wicked is ensnared by the transgression of his lips, but the righteous will come through trouble”.
    Proverbs 13:3 - “He who guards his mouth preserves his life, but he who opens his lips shall have destruction”.
    Proverbs 16:23 - “The heart of the wise teaches his mouth, and adds learning to his lips”.
    Proverbs 17:7 - “Excellent speech is not becoming to a fool”.
    Proverbs 19:1 - “Better is the poor who walks in his integrity, than one who is perverse in his lips, and is a fool”.
    Matthew 12: 32-37 ..."For out of the abundance of the heart, the mouth speaks...every idle word men may speak, they will give account of it in the day of judgement...for by your words you will be justified, and by your words you will be condemned.

    I’m sorry Blair, but my subjectivity doesn’t come from today’s culture, and what today’s man perceives as coarse or not. My subjectivity comes straight from the word of God - which is the same yesterday, today, and tomorrow. I struggle with my own tongue continually - it is a daily struggle. The closer I draw to God, the more I am convicted with what is wrong in my life, and what I need to remove from it.
    God’s word alone should be our subjective standard - not current cultural trends. I have nothing to lose by “erring on the side of caution” when it comes to my mouth/lips/tongue, and EVEYTHING TO GAIN!!!.

  • Posted by

    The pietists are more conserned about language then theology.

    To bad most of the Christian Right are stronger in their pietism then in their theology.

  • Posted by clearly

    “The pietists are more conserned about language then theology. To bad most of the Christian Right are stronger in their pietism then in their theology.”

    Anony, I am baffled that you would make such a bold generalization without citing either evidence or example. To disagree with the application of their theologoy to life is one thing, but to say that their theology is lacking is quite another. I challenge you to this: invite Ingrid to discuss theology with you. Maybe we could even hear it on her radio show or the show of your choice. I have feeling that she will leave you feeling rather outmatched. Also, to characterize the Christian right (of which I am a part) as being theologically unlearned shows that you are rather lacking in the area of discernment.

  • Posted by

    God has just told me that The Lion King is demonstrably responsible for ALL the problems in America today.

    Oh, and in Iraq too.

  • Posted by clearly

    “No one is calling God’s word a lie. The point that has been made, and made rather well, is that the standard of what is filth and what is not filth is completely subjective. Thankfully, we have wonderful people such as the VCY who are willing to be the Thought Police for us so that we don’t have to listen to the Spirit ourselves. To quote Derek Webb, “Don’t teach me how to live like a free man, just give me a new law” - Blair

    Blair, supposing you had young children or even teenagers at your house, would you be pleased if I came over and said things like, “Son, do you have any balls?” or the like. Would it please you if your pastor spoke to your wife after the service and described for her in some detail his recent prostate examination? I think not. So then why is this kind of talk acceptable in the public forum? Simply, it isn’t.

    How the man of God use grude language in any context, let alone from the pulpit as he proclaims God’s word to the church? I could cite Scriptures which talk about course language | but I don’t think it would the cause at all. You know the Scriptures; the issue here is a heart that doesn’t want to submit to their authority.

  • Posted by Corinne

    It’s easy to mock getting rid of IFL because of the use of some things like “heck,” but those were just smaller issues tacked on to larger issues.  Maybe some of you folks weren’t offended by the talk of prostate exams - but some people (including myself) wouldn’t be comfortable listening to that, among other things mentioned.  Didn’t Paul tell those Corinthians who could eat meat sacrificed to idols with a clean conscience NOT to do so in front of those who considered it a sin?  If you want to call me weak (1 Corinthians 8:9), go for it, but don’t push your “freedom” only to sin yourself (1 Cor. 8:12).  I don’t say this to condemn, but rather hopefully to encourage.  The REAL issue here isn’t Chuck Swindoll or Ingrid; it’s not IFL or VCY - it’s the GLORY OF THE LORD JESUS CHRIST.  It’s easy for any of us to point out what others are doing wrong, whether it’s Swindoll or Schleuter, but it’s so much harder for us to humble ourselves and let the Holy Spirit show us our own wicked way, whether it’s coarse language or sharp criticism.  There is grace for Chuck in stumbling someone with irreverent jesting, there is grace for Ingrid in being judgmental, and praise God there is grace for people like you and me who waste our time talking about these people instead of praying for them.  (Of course I say that to make a point, hopefully we are praying for them.) May the Lamb who was slain receive the reward of His suffering.

  • Posted by myPond

    yeah...I remember again why I’ve loved Chuck Swindoll’s preaching and writing so much for all these years. He rides motorcycles too. Or used to.


  • Posted by

    Hmmm...So what is the real issue here?  I wonder if anyone has actually identified it? I don’t think I have seen it, though I could be wrong.  Instead, all I see is argument from people who want to be right and have the last word.  Just a thought.

  • Posted by

    With few exceptions the comments on this subject have been disgusting--just as disgusting as C S’s use of the English language. There is the matter of HOLINESS that most of the commentors so far are have no clue to it’s application in a real Christian’s life. Of course it’s O K for Mr. Swindol. It has to be because all of his defenders do the same thing. Continue to ignore the Scriptures and continue to be ignorant of the life that Christ has called you to live. If you excuse the sins of others it is most likely that you are excusing you own sins before the Holy God whom you claim to love and serve. Chuck was WRONG and it’s about time some body called him on it. Isn’t this the same Chuck Swindol that advocates contemplative prayer ("Be Still” video)? How many red flags do you need? I suppose I’m expecting too much from the emergent crowd----"The Lord knows who are His and let everyone who names the name of Christ depart for iniquity”.

  • Posted by

    There is bigger fish to fry, if you take the ministry of Chuck Swindoll in perspective he clearly presents the gospel of salvation to a lost world. I am sure our early church fathers like Luther, Calvin, Spurgeon and on and on had there fleshly moments on the highway of holiness, sometimes history can paint a picture that is a little to saintly forgetting they were mere men like us.

  • Posted by

    So, maybe ingrid or one of those who feel Slice is right on the money would be so kind as to create a comprehensive list of words that are off-limits.  I’m just so uncertain and don’t want to devastate a weaker brother with unholy language.  Maybe Sandra could compile an objective master list so we could be sure we were not being subjective.  After all, we all want to be “true Christians.”

    Also, I’m curious about Darrel’s quote - ----"The Lord knows who are His and let everyone who names the name of Christ depart for iniquity”.  What is that from and what does it mean?  “everyone who names the name of Christ depart for iniquity”?  I’m baffled by that one.


  • Posted by

    Get the soap and open wide! grin

    Wait a minute, as I remember that didn’t work for me when my mother tried it! grin

  • Posted by

    Dave, yes I do have an objective master list. It’s called the bible. “True” christians put God’s word first - after all, it is our ONLY standard. To say that subjectibility must be applied to what is filth and what isn’t - I say read the bible. Again I say it ALONE is our standard.
    1 Thess 5:21-22..."Test all things, hold fast what is good. ABSTAIN from every FORM of evil”. They are God’s words, not mine.
    As to Ingrid’s decision to remove this program - I didn’t personally hear this particular program - but if Chuck’s coarse and objectionable language about prostrates/doctors fingers etc is accurate, then applying the above verses (and many more for that matter), then Ingrid was fulfilling what scripture exhorts us to do. Abstain from it. Remove it. Rebuke. Warn others. Scripturally, she if only following what God has said!!

  • Posted by Corinne

    Is there really an argument about whether or not coarse jesting and filthy language is bad?  Scripture says it is not fitting for a representative of Christ to speak or behave in certain ways.  If we spent less time trying to find “the line” of what is sin and what is not, and instead spent more time cleansing “ourselves from all filthiness of the flesh and spirit, perfecting holiness IN THE FEAR OF GOD,” (2 Cor. 7:1) we wouldn’t be arguing.  The call to be separate and holy was not put forth by Ingrid or VCY, it was put forth by the Holy Spirit, who was sent by the Father.  We’re not as separate or as holy or we should be, but that doesn’t mean we’re supposed to be comfy where we are.  The lover of Christ desires to constantly be formed more into His image - ALL of it: His love, His meekness, His humility, His holiness, His desire for the Word of God, His hatred of sin, His desire to do the Father’s will and see Him glorified… Perhaps the reason there is no “comprhensive list” of what is “off-limits” is because that would be too easy and wouldn’t require self-denial and death to the flesh.  Perhaps the reason we don’t have a clear outline of “dos and don’ts” is because God would rather have us draw near to Him and gain a better understanding of His heart.

  • I don’t know who set the VCY up as an “authority” to submit to. Chuck Swindoll has been around for decades and done more for the Kingdom of God than any of you can imagine. Have you forgotten that Jesus himself hung out with prostitutes, with fishermen, with tax collectors and every other kind of sinner? How can you possibly think that Jesus never heard coarse language during the span of his life?

    Jesus didn’t care about the people who had all their spirituality together. Those who were more fascinated with what a book said than affecting change in men and women’s hearts. He called them pharisees, snakes, and the people that carried God’s Word in front of their eyes at all times, these are the people that Jesus disdained. Because they were high and mighty and had it all figured out. Jesus himself, the Son of God, could do nothing with a proud heart. And now, history has repeated itself, and there are those, like the VCY, who have taken it upon themselves to be the Big Brother of Christianity.

    Yet, none of you can see this. You will respond with your Bible verses and your Christianese and you sit proud in your own self-righteousness. Who among you has hung out with a prostitute lately and told them about a better way to live? Who among you has invited a gay couple into your home? Who among you live in the real world, and are a cause for affecting real change? You’re nothing more than hot air. Swindoll is out there everyday, doing what God has called him to do.

    And on the other hand, the VCY, who 99.5% of the world has never heard of, is doing nothing more but sitting on their high horse, making sure that every Christian within hearing distance is conforming to their brand of Christianity. What is the VCY and others going to say when God comes to judge us all? “Lord, um...I was doing your will.” Which God will retort, “No one likes a tattle-tale. I knew the hearts of everyone. Your life was wasted.”

    Good job, VCY. Good job VCY fans. Way to go in doing God’s job for him.

  • Posted by

    I know this isn’t a John MacAuthur post . . . but the circumstances of this story seem similar enough to the VCY’s actions to tell it.

    A few years ago I listened to a speaker at John MacArthur’s Pastor’s Conference, during a rail against Brian McLaren, tell his listeners that they must now consider Leadership Journal an “apostate journal” for recognizing McLaren’s book “A New Kind of Christian.” Sprinkled in to the message were rants against RW, BH and a number of other A few days later I opened my copy of LJ and on two facing pages were a full page ad for the Leadership Summit and John MacArthur’s new book. 

    I guess advertising in an “apostate journal” isn’t an endorsement, just an effort to get we heretics who read it to come over to his side . . . into the light . . . and squeeze a few bucks out of our pockets while he converts us.

    A friend once told me that he thought when smart business people take up roles as Christian leaders, they check their brains and their balls at the door.  Maybe the choice of words was a bit crude (though I’m not bothered), I can’t think of another way to say it that makes the point as well.  And I think VCY and SOL has succumbed to the syndrome.


  • Posted by

    The comments on this post illustrate why so many people want nothing to do with Christianity.  How can we expect people to believe we love them because we model the love Jesus has for them when we so obviously hate each other?

    How is it that the people at VCY and Slice and their like and the people of the Moravian Church both claim to be Christians when one group value unity of the Body of Christ and the other group relishes disunity?

    One of the principles of the Moravian Church is “In essentials, unity; in non-essentials, liberty; and in all things, charity.”

    And the Moravian Covenant for Christian Living states, “We realize that it is the Lord’s will that the Church of Jesus Christ should give evidence of and seek unity in Him with zeal and love. We see how such unity has been promised us and laid upon us as a charge. We recognize that through the grace of Christ the different denominations have received many gifts and that the Church of Christ may be enriched by these many and varied contributions. It is our desire that we may learn from one another and rejoice together in the riches of the love of Christ and the manifold wisdom of God.”

    Aren’t we called to love and unity, not the disunity and hate-mongering that parts of the Christian community endeavor to spread?

  • Posted by David Sheffield

    The sad reality behind all of this is that this bickering, fighting, backstabbing, and name calling among Christians is the very reason that the non-Christian world sees no need to enter the Church or trust in Christ. They already have that in their lives and their world. Why would they want to become part of something that they are already a part of? Our world looks no better to them then their own so why move if it is not a move up?
    I believe this move is a gross overreaction to a man who is being all things to all people so that many will be saved. So someone doesn’t agree with it. That was not what you were called to do and he was not called to do your ministry. We all have different callings to minister to different cultures and sub-cultures and what works in one will not work in all.
    Having giving my mere opinion, I would like to call both sides to realize that if the other side id being true to the calling God put on them in their ministry then we need to all back-off and stop attacking other Christians so the rest of the world will see the Church as a peaceful, loving place where all with different gifts and callings work together as a big team to reach the world with the gospel.
    But, somebody is going to have the make first move to make it happen and be the first to lay down their weapons and stop fighting.

  • Posted by

    Well, what a discussion! I do know where to start and it is not by condemning either side in this issue. I agree with Wendi that the language that Chuck Swindoll used was a bit crude, however the language isn;t really the issue is it? The issue is Christians who sit on either side of the fence lobing blog bombs at one another. I have read a number of Ingrid’s posts at SOL and I find them to be narrow, negative and demeaning. In my opinion she seems to take a no holds barred stand on what she doesn’t like. However they are her opinions, I don’t agree with them, but they are hers. As for VCY, I can’t comment, but if SOL is a ministry of VCY then I probably won’t be listening anytime soon. What I find so frustrating is the here on the Wild West of technology many people of every different persuasion have the chance to read these blogs and form opinions of Christians from them. What kind of opinions are being formed by the comments from Chuck, Ingrid, myself or any of the other authors of this post. I hope and pray that as people read these posts that they find that God who loves them is being honoured and glorified by all, that to quote Jesus “By this all men will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another.” I point my finger at myself in this. Have i glorified God in my comments in this response? Have i shown love to Ingrid, Chuck, Wendi or others as I have written? Perhaps, perhaps not. Don’t get me wrong, Biblical truth is vital, it is the basis from which we stand. Let’s not use Biblical truth as a weapon of mass destruction to wipe out all the people we don’t agree with. We show more grace when we allow others to voice their opinions and enter into dialogue together then when we attack with a visceral need to be right.
    Just my thoughts.

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