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Don’t Hold Back Mark… What Makes You Angry?!

Orginally published on Tuesday, June 03, 2008 at 7:38 AM
by Todd Rhoades

Here's an interesting segment from Mark Driscoll. And, before you think this was put out by one of Mark's detractors, this is actually posted by TheResurgence.com. It's great to see some passion, but you can tell he gets pretty perturbed!


Any thoughts?


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  There are 31 Comments:

  • Posted by Ross Middleton

    I Love Driscoll, he is awesome.

  • Posted by Andy Wood

    Good thing there weren’t any money changers around!

    Not having spent a lot of time reading or listing to Mark, I like it.  It’s authentic, honest, and biblical.  It’s to his church, with whom he has a pastoral relationship.  Assuming it IS actually anger (not much of a stretch), I believe it’s the righteous indignation kind.

    At least he didn’t present a “rabbi” who had just had his nails done!

  • Posted by

    Sometimes hyperbole makes a great point, although it is hard to tell sometimes with Mark Driscoll what ishyperbole. He is very passionate and I commend it.

  • Posted by Camey

    Oh my.... Had the volume turned up on this. Hubby came in to the room and said, “Who are you listening to? He sounds like an angry Cookie Monster from the bathroom.” Bet Mark has never heard that one before....

  • Posted by Steve Wulf

    I wonder if Mark Driscoll is a Lewis Black fan.

  • Obviously he is using a device of communication here and I agree with his point.  He is so entertaining and I believe sincere in trying to help influence something that I could agree with.

    This, however, just sounds like a new brand of fundamentalism to me--aka lets speak against things and Christians in particular.

  • Posted by Peter Hamm

    I, for one… LOVED this.

    He doesn’t need medication yet, but he can see the place where he needs medication from where he’s standing.

    Point made boldly and with passion.

  • Posted by

    I’m with Mark on this.  Well said.

  • Posted by GregQualls

    I can’t listen to Christian radio stations for this same reason.  I get so mad that people around me think I have road rage.

  • Posted by

    I also have pretty much given up on contemporary Christian music radio, too.  Hey, it’s, “Positive and Encouraging!” but it’s also devoid of Biblical truth and a high view of God.  And I find myself going nuts much like Driscoll when I hear that, “Turn Up The Music,” song.

    --
    CS

  • Posted by

    I loved it, too! 

    I’ve been in churches where the leadership is more concerned with hurting someone’s feelings than standing up for the truth of God’s Word. It breeds apathy toward the sovereignty of God.

    It’s not a legalistic point of view to want people to obey God’s word, it’s scriptural. 1 John 2:3-6 says “We know that we have come to know him if we obey his commands. The man who says, “I know him,” but does not do what he commands is a liar, and the truth is not in him. But if anyone obeys his word, God’s love is truly made complete in him. This is how we know we are in him: Whoever claims to live in him must walk as Jesus did.”

    True love wants the best for people, even if they need a swift kick in the pants from time to time. Don’t tell them what they want to hear, tell them what they need to hear in all love and truth so that they may become the followers of Christ capable of winning the hearts and souls of unbelievers through the power of the Holy Spirit.

  • Posted by Peter Hamm

    Hey, I’m a worship pastor and I won’t listen to CCM radio either.

    Although, for the person who never takes the time to just be still and love his family, that “Turn up the Music” song is some much needed advice, even with it’s severe theological flaw (imho) in the last verse.

    Back to the original post, I think one thing that might be a concern over the Driscoll thing is that he could be construed as meaning that Christ-followers don’t have any time for dialog with non-christians. But I think he has so much humor in there that it would not be offensive to the “unsaved” visitor in his church. What do you all think of that?

  • Posted by

    Peter:

    “But I think he has so much humor in there that it would not be offensive to the “unsaved” visitor in his church. What do you all think of that?”

    Good question.  While preaching should not aim at being offensive in nature, filled with malice or an intent to maim, the message can be offensive on a theological basis, and that’s okay.  It is offensive to the world to say that, “Jesus is the only way,” much like how Driscoll sort of did in commenting about the rabbis speaking in Christian forums, and that is good.  If the focus is more on not offending the unsaved who come into churches more than sharing the true Word, that says painful things to the lost, such as good works amounting to nothing in trying to earn salvation, then that church is doing it wrong. 

    The humor is a nice touch, and more importantly, the message still stayed true to the Bible.

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    CS

  • Posted by

    I don’t really know much about Mark Driscoll, but I agree with his sentiments whole-heartedly, and I want to thank him for his boldness in confronting the religious toleration mindset that has over taken many churches.  AMEN!!!!  AMEN!!! AMEN!!!

  • Posted by

    Some things should make us angry; they anger God.  And this anger should stir us to action, but with the caution not to sin in our anger.

    I enjoyed the clip.  Not sure I’d want a steady diet of Driscoll, but it was amusing.  I particularly related to the concern about spending every holiday with a son-in-law you don’t like.  One of my daughters once brought a date (Christian young man) to a family event, and he announced to the table that he thought that Eric Clapton was the most overrated guitarist in music.  Naturally, we had to take our daughter aside and gently explain the potential dangers of being unequally yoked with a Philistine. 

    But seriously, sometimes you have to speak up and say things that the people you love (whether child, friend, or other Christian brother) just aren’t going to want to hear.  A self-examination for attitude and arrogance is required—take the beam out of our own eye—but we do this in order to approach our brother effectively ... not instead.

  • Posted by Brian L.

    I thought it was a great clip.  My favorite line: “You’re seven years old - you should run the website!”

    FWIW, I like Christian radio...most of the time…

    Brian L.

  • Posted by David

    Okay, I could not listen to much past when he said that if his daughter brought home a “wing nut whack job” and then he described what he would do to him which sounded like what a “wing nut whack job” would do to someone.  I know it was for dramatic effect, but I certainly would think twice about marrying into that family!!  And I worry about his popping a main vein in his head.  I have heard him some but is he always this intense?  I guess John the Bap was pretty prophetic and seemed pretty crazy.

  • Posted by jamie steele

    This is a great clip. I love Mark’s passion and his commitment to preach the Bible.
    Some preachers with his style of doing church never get to preaching thru books of the Bible or preaching doctrine.

    Way to go Driscoll

  • Posted by

    Awesome and speaking what our generation needs to hear.

  • Posted by Derrick Logan

    Does anyone else think he sounds like that guy from the cleaning spray infomercial?

  • Posted by

    Yep, Billy Mays pitching Ka-Boom for only $19.95!

  • Posted by Andy Wood

    Okay, I have to ask because Mark mentions it, along with several of you.  WHY don’t you like CCM or other stations?  Not that I don’t share some frustrations with you, just curious.  How could a CCM station or Internet presence draw you as a listener?

    I got up this morning singing (in my head) a dreadful old gospel quartet song I used to hear as a teenager because it was the ONLY Christian radio I could get.  I used to LONG for something that played contemporary music… and that was in the 70s!

  • Posted by

    Andy:

    “WHY don’t you like CCM or other stations?  Not that I don’t share some frustrations with you, just curious.  How could a CCM station or Internet presence draw you as a listener?”

    I’ll bite.  I dislike most CCM stations for the following reasons:

    -Non-Christian Songs.  Many of the songs on these stations may be by Christian artists or say the word “God” or “Jesus” in the lyrics, but the content lacks content that could be called Christian.  I cited, “How You Live” by Point of Grace, for example, which mentions God only once in its song, and says things like, “‘Cause it’s not who you knew / And it’s not what you did / It’s how you live.” No, I’m sorry, if it’s about how you live, we all fall woefully short.

    -"God Is My Girlfriend” Songs.  Many of the current playlists have amatory songs, where the singer sounds more like he or she is singing to a lover than the God of the universe.  With these songs, if you substitute the word “Baby” instead of “Jesus,” they could be played on modern pop stations just fine.

    -"7-11" Songs.  There are some songs where it is just seven words repeated about eleven times in varying combinations throughout the lyrics.  Can’t they come up with something more than droning the same words over and over?  Put the song through a Fleisch-Kincaid evaluation and they’d probably come up at a second-grade level.

    -Low View Of God Songs.  When we sing about God, although we have a degree of intimacy with Him through Christ, that doesn’t mean that we shouldn’t retain the high view of God that He rightfully deserves. 

    -Bad Hosting/Commentary.  Many times the stories and comments by the hosts and DJs are also lacking in Christian content.  I remember hearing one news short read recently where a security guard turned in an obscene amount of money he found laying around.  The security guard said he did it because he was a good person.  No mention of God, Christ, or anything else.  Instead, it was a praising of the goodness of man.  But, hey, it’s, “Positive and Encouraging!”

    I would turn into a station that considered these things and played music that elevates God, if there were such a station available.  I’d even like hearing a station that occasionally plays hymns, too.

    --
    CS

  • Posted by Andy Wood

    Thanks for the reply.  So what do you listen to instead?  Talk radio?  Secular radio?  Sports talk?  CDs/tapes/iPod?

  • Posted by

    I usually listen to CCM, there are 3 stations in my area so there’s usually something I can listen to.

    I DON’T listen to CCM for theology, so the perceived theological incorrectness of some songs doesn’t make me crazy.

    I listen to CCM because I often have my kids in the car and prefer it over the options?  Maybe some hip-hop booty shakin’ music?  Or head-banging with Metallica?  Maybe Boy George and Culture Club?

    I listen to CCM, I support the local listener-supported CCM station, and I encourage young people to listen to CCM station and music rather than the alternatives.

    So, if you refuse to listen to contemporary Christian music, what do you listen to?  And what do you want your children and the young people in your church listening to?

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