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Florida Church Set To Tell Congregation of Woman’s Adultery on January 4

Orginally published on Monday, December 22, 2008 at 6:37 AM
by Todd Rhoades


The Elders of Grace Community Church are taking a stand against the unbiblical lifestyle of Rebecca Hancock. And they have no other alternative then to pull a Matthew 18:17 on her. They plan to "tell if to the church". "It" being Hancock's sexual relationship with someone to whom she is not married. In a letter sent to her, the elders write: "Unless you repent of this sin and agree to meet with the elders regarding this issue, this third step will be carried out publicly on January 4, 2009. In order to avoid this, you may contact us through the church office." Hancock, instead, decided to contact the media. You can see a copy of the churches letter here...

PDF of Grace Community Church’s letter...

Here’s the story on FoxNews.com...

According to the Fox News story, Hancock says she has left the church rather than leaving her boyfriend.  He two children remain active members of the church.

The Rev. T. Scott Christmas, pastor of the church, told the Florida Times-Union that the “process of loving accountability” is made very clear to members, and the church is doing “nothing more than following the practices of what biblical churches have done through history.”

More from the Fox News article:

Despite knowing her relationship was against church rules, Hancock said she never realized that disclosing it would trigger the first in a three-step process used by the church to deal with sinners: private admonishment, admonishment in the presence of witnesses and finally public admonishment.

Still, she said she tried to follow her mentor’s advice and break up with Young, who wasn’t a member of the church.

“I must have gone through 10 breakups trying to end it, but after not having the power to do it I would go back,” she said. “It was hard to give up somebody I love.”

Hancock learned that her private sessions with her mentor hadn’t been so private after all, when in October her mentor pulled her aside in church and asked her come into another room.

“In the room, there were several women that I never told my business to. And they proceeded to tell me about my business and what I was doing and what a sinner I was — just persecuting me.” Hancock said. “One of the ladies was even saying ‘I was at your house when you didn’t come home all night.’”

It was then that Hancock said she decided to leave Grace Community Church.

“I told them, ‘I cannot believe you people are doing this. I’m not going any further — I’m never coming here again,’” she recalled.

Darrell L. Bock, a research professor for the Dallas Theological Seminary, said that public admonishment is not uncommon in churches that focus on discipline but added, “Most churches would handle this much more privately than this particular community is choosing to do.”

What do you think?  Is this church overstepping it’s bounds?  Or is it lovingly correcting a member?  Love to hear your thoughts…


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  • Posted by Ernie Stevenson

    Who is to say that this woman is not lost?  She certainly did not gain her salvation through church membership.  Disciples of Jesus Christ will be known by their fruit and for their love for each other.  In my opinion this appears to be a case of pride mostly.  One-upmanship if you will.  Why else would a church actually set a date to publicly denounce someone?  I also have witnessed church discipline involving adultery and never has their been a public proclamation to shame and sensationalize.

  • Posted by

    Ernie,

    It is the woman herself that brought this to the national medias attention.

  • Posted by

    I agree with this church.  It is about time that we start standing on the Word of God.  If we are going to call ourselves Christians, we need to start acting like Christians.  That means taking the bad with the good, we are called to live according to God’s Word, not according to the world.

    The Word of God is very clear about adultery or fornacation.  And the Word of God is very clear about disipline of a member of a church that is sinning and will not stop.  It sounds like this church did everything according to the Word.  I don’t believe that this woman’s mentor handled the situation correctly, if you are going to mentor, you should not go to your friends for help, you go to your pastor.

    There are 2 sides to every story, sound like we are only hearing the side of the women.  We have heard that what the church is planning on doing, but we haven’t heard the rest of their story.

    ak

  • Posted by Ernie Stevenson

    Jud,

    This is true, she apparently did contact the media.  Which shows signs of desperation or signs of manipulation.  Either she is like a wounded animal or she is vindictive.  Time will tell.  If the reporting is accurate, and as some of said we are only hearing one side of the story, the betrayal of the mentoring relationship I guess is what really ticks me off.  This I have seen much more than church discipline play out whereas relationships are destroyed and people are rendered ineffective for the Kingdom.

  • Posted by

    John:

    “If every church kicked everyone out who had unrepented sex without being married, there wouldn’t be enough people left to financially sustain Christianity.

    “If I were a member of this church, I’d suggest we work on things like greed, hate, bigotry, and state-sponsored murder rather than focusing our energies on divorcees who have sex.  “

    Please tell me that you’re kidding here.

    --
    CS

  • Posted by

    Notice the tagline in the church’s logo: “Changing lives one truth at a time” - I guess that is one way to go about it…

  • Posted by

    Are there not times in every Sunday service that there sits in the congregation people in different levels of sin? 

    I can see this “discipline” if the woman was in a leadership position, but besides that she should have been left along with her mentor to continue to work with her.

    IMHO

  • Posted by ckincincy

    Al,
    Because that’s what the Bible teaches… right?  Only bring leaders sins to the church?

    Christians need to follow the Bible more, not less.

  • Posted by Tre Lawrence

    John: very pertinent point.

    I have a question: is it biblical for us to “break fellowship”, kick out, etc., from the church? I am talking about folks who have fallen short? Not just removing from positions of leadership, but actually thrown out.

    Love to hear the opinions…

  • Posted by

    Here is the only opinion that matters.....

    “I have written you in my letter not to associate with sexually immoral people— 10not at all meaning the people of this world who are immoral, or the greedy and swindlers, or idolaters. In that case you would have to leave this world. 11But now I am writing you that you must not associate with anyone who calls himself a brother but is sexually immoral or greedy, an idolater or a slanderer, a drunkard or a swindler. With such a man do not even eat.”

    1 Corinthians 5 :9-11

  • Posted by

    Hey all you who want to drag this lady into the public square and stone her… have you forgotten how Jesus handled such an issue?  Does that not have some weight in how this is dealt with?

    I love all these “stone her” types, yet they are the ones who in the “privacy of their minds” commit adultery every other minute!

  • Posted by

    Hey Al, I am sure you know that that woman repented don’t you.  Matthew 18 lays out a process and when followed is about how God seeks to restore someone who is in a state of rebellion and sin.  This is not about finding peoples faults and then nailing them.  Matthew 18 is about biblically bringing restoration.  It actually teaches us that when we follow the process that we work within the authority of God.  “whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven…” We also have the ear of God… “whatever you ask…” and we have the presence of God… “where ever 2 or 3 are gathered I am there…”

    As a pastor I have had to initiate this process about 5or 6 times and every time except for 1 it has ended in restoration and a celebration of a sinner who has come home.  The one time it did not work the person ended up just attending another church and continuing their behavior for a season.  We did not bring the offense before the whole church on a Sunday morning but rather a special prayer gathering for the person. 

    When ever a person repented we always bought them a gift, prayed over them and made sure we provided what was needed to help them make a godly decision.  For example we helped someone move out of a place and got them established.  Once we collected some cash to tie someone over since their behavior impacted their employment.  We always provided accountability and a process to help the individual grow past the guilt, the habit, the brokenness and to learn to live in light. 

    From what I read, I think this church has shown grace.  I pray for restoration.

  • Posted by Matt Parkins

    No, no, no - there are some very silly & judgemental comments here.

    Why are people here assuming that “bringing the issue to the church” means bringing it before the entire church attendees and membership in the most humiliating way possible in the Sunday morning service??

    Almost every church on the planet bases their discipline procedures on this passage but this church has interpreted it to mean humiliate the person into repentance - needlessly so in my opinion.

    As a pastor my church adopts this passage of scripture too but “bringing it to the church” means bringing the issue before the leadership team (or senior leadership team in a mega church).

    Finally, the last part of the passage that has been quoted says if they refuse to repent they should be treated like pagans.  And how do we treat pagans and the unsaved?  We love them, we lead them to Christ and we lay our lives down for them to be saved.  We don’t humiliate and ex-communicate them (unless they genuinely can’t come to any service without causing hurt to the people directly involved by their presence). 

    The point is that the long-term goal of this situation is eventual repentance, and humiliating someone will most likely prevent them to returning to your or any church again.

  • Posted by Ernie Stevenson

    Very well stated Matt Parkins.  My feelings on the matter exactly.

  • Posted by

    Me three, Matt.  Very well stated.

  • Posted by Cindy K

    I agree with Matt, above.

    Honestly if they are going to bring her sin before the entire congregation on Sunday morning, they had best bring all the sins committed by that same congregation - Pastors included.

    I am a sinner.  I don’t want to be but I am.  When someone cuts me off in my car I swear.  I covet things in my heart sometimes.  I’m selfish. I get angry with people for the wrong reasons.  I could continue the list, but I’d never stop typing.  I guess that I’m trying to say that the bottom line is that I’m no better than she is.  Sin is sin.

    The Lord convicts, and only God can judge.

    Yes, she want way overboard going to the Media.  That was ugly.  But reading her sin before the congregation on Sunday Morning?  Shades of Cotton Mathers.

    Maybe they should have just burned her.

  • Posted by

    All,

    Please read.....

    I Corinthians 5:9-11 I have written you in my letter not to associate with sexually immoral people—not at all meaning the people of this world who are immoral, or the greedy and swindlers, or idolaters. In that case you would have to leave this world. But now I am writing you that you must not associate with anyone who calls himself a brother but is sexually immoral or greedy, an idolater or a slanderer, a drunkard or a swindler. With such a man do not even eat.

  • Posted by

    Matt,

    Well said.

    Thanks for bringing some wisdom to the discussion.

    Al

  • Posted by Peter Hamm

    Thanks, Matt.

    How many of you have excommunicated or perhaps simply stopped associating with all the greedy people you know?

    How many of you have excommunicated or perhaps simply stopped associating with all the people you know who engage in questionable business practices (read: swindlers)?

    Why is it that we put some sins higher on the list than others? Why is it that when we read a passage like that we only see the sexually immoral people as the ones to deal with?

    You don’t have to answer…

  • Posted by

    Peter,

    Regrettably, a handfull.  Absolutely heartbreaking.

    BTW, there are various goals to church discipline, (1) one of which of course is the restoration of the offender.  The other goals of church discipline are (2) the glory of Christ and His gospel of changed lives, and (3) the purity of the local church body.

    Another point is that all Christians to some extent particpate in the sins listed in I Corinthians 5:9-11 (stated above), but that’s not the point.  The point is this lady, who professes to be a follower of Christ, knowingly participates in an obvious-to-all sin with no regret.  That should send shivers up the spine of everyone who has a born again heart and who yearns to glorify God in his/her life.

  • Posted by Travis Williams

    Everyone is so upset over the church taking this sin public. But this woman made it a whole lot more public than the church ever could. Because of her actions, people around the world know about it, instead of just the people of that congregation.

    Let’s be honest, the Scripture doesn’t say in Matthew 18:17 what to do if the person decides to leave the church when you’re in the middle of the Matthew 18 process. So maybe that’s a decision that should be left up to the church. Although I will say that they are doing the right thing in just letting her go.

    Also, when Jesus said in Matthew 18:17 to “take it to the church.” he actually meant The Church. The original text for the word church there means the church body, as in the whole group, as in the congregation.

    And when I read this story it sounds like they went through step 2, taking it before a smaller group, more than one time. First it was with her mentor and a few other people, and now the elders of the church are trying to settle it between just them. So really, they’re giving this woman more than a couple of opportunities to settle it without having to go before the congregation.

  • Posted by Travis Williams

    Oh, and the word Jesus used for “church” in Matthew 18:17 was ekklesia, Just wanted to throw that out there. Peace.

  • Posted by

    Well put, Matt and Peter.

    Do we call out the rich folks for the sin of greed?  How often has that happened? Especially when they are big givers?

  • Posted by ckincincy

    If a rich person is a big giver, doesn’t that mean they aren’t real greedy?

    But all sins are important to deal with when they need to be dealt with.

    You shouldn’t say, don’t deal with x because we don’t deal with y.  Both x and y are sin.

  • Posted by Jan Cox

    are you kidding me?  are we being punked?  seriously...where’s ashton kutcher?

    a few thousand years ago this chick would have been chosen to save the Jews from a corrupt politician or harbor a couple of rag-tag disciples to spare them from a pre-mature end...now listen to us?!

    seriously ashton, you can come out now!

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