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Is it Time to Leave?  Assessing Your Future Possibilities

Orginally published on Tuesday, December 07, 2004 at 9:28 AM
by Todd Rhoades

This week, we’ll pick up in on our continuing look at John Cionca’s book "Before You Move: A Guide to Making Transitions in Ministry." This week we’ll discuss how to discern your future possibilities. When you’re considering whether God might be moving you to a new place of ministry (or keeping you in your present calling), looking at future opportunities is yet another way of helping discern God’s will. John writes, "The pastor who envisions new programs, targeting new audiences, and strategizing daughter churches has good reason to remain with his or her present congregation...This red light is expecially brilliant for the pastor who has sufficient credibility to pull it off."…

He continues, "Pastors without dreams lose their present effectiveness and their hope for the church's future...When bright dreams are replaced by darkness, a move may preserve the health of both the cleric and the congregation."

Remember, this is one of twenty red light / green light scenarios that John discusses in his book. There are many other things to consider as you see if a move is right for you. Does your current job motivate you? Are you excited about the future possibilities. Or does the future look like a long, dark tunnel? Your answer could be one key in deciding your next move.

Have you dealt with this issue? Maybe you're currently going through this... let's discuss start a discussion here at the blog today...

For more information on the other nineteen things to consider, pick up a copy of John's book today!


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  • Posted by

    What happens when you struggle for 8 years in a church that Paul/James/Peter/John/ Jerry Falwell/John Maxwell/ and Rick Warren put togther on a staff couldn’t lead? - Yet the Pastor, your father-in-law, and boss won’t let go of trying to make it work?

    Here are some of reasons he stays:

    1. Endless optimisim
    2. After 8 years his confidence is hurt, and doesn’t want to struggle else where
    3. And his grandkids live here

    please, somebody out there give me some advice!

  • Posted by

    If geography is important to you, but the signs are there to leave a particular church, then one has to find a different line of work.  That’s what I did.

    I was an organist/choirmaster at a church full-time, and the position went to part-time.  In addition, I saw much darkness on that job, and for some time had been looking forward to getting out.  I ended up going back into electrical engineering (I took a course to update my skills).

    The end result is one of sadness in the sense that I am not making as much music as I once did.  Also, I have strong feelings about the church I left - I don’t even drive by it (I will detour, but that’s not hard to do).  In another sense, I am happier to be out of that stressful environment.  I find that churches can be the nastiest political places - and that’s why I’m glad to be out of full-time ministry.  I now have a very part-time music ministry position, and I’m just as happy to go home and forget about it since my life is filled with so many other wonderful things.  It’s a nice little church, and I’m glad I can help these people out.  As for my future in ministry, I pretty much see myself being less active - music is not seen as a priority, and I’m tired of dealing with mean people.

  • Posted by

    I made a decision to leave ministry less than a week ago. I have come to realize that having ministry as a career at this point is not an option. God has instead given me the opportunity to return to school and be trained to work in Special Ed. I never thought I would be leaving full time ministry but God has given me the confidence to take this step of faith.

  • Posted by

    I have been dealing with mixed feelings about leaving my current position in our Church.  I am a part-time music director in addition to co-teaching classes and being on several committees.  It really bothers me when things do not get done, so people have “stood back” and let me do many more things than I am able given the time constraints.  I am receiving much criticism from adults who complain, but are unwilling to step in and work, but I wonder who will work with the children and youth if I leave.  Deep decisions.

  • Posted by

    I have been at this church five years. We have been in court four years. The judge order a vote and we won. They took us back to court, the judge threw the case out three times now they are appealing to a higher court. They send out letters and postcards weekly seeking to destory my character. They have made it very clear if I don’t leave they will destroy the church and me. As a result the church has lost members as well as the offerings going down (many times I do not recieve a salary). Some say that they refuse to obey the Bible. What should I do? HELP

  • Posted by

    I have been at my current church for three and half years as the part-time Children Pastor, and I am struggling right with the church leadership.  I feel that I am bound to doing only what is preapproved by the leadership, rather than doing what I feel God has placed upon my heart to do.  I have recently been asked to join a new church plant as the children/youth Pastor, I feel that this is where God is leading me to go.  Around a year ago I got a vision for this type of ministry, and when I tried to present the vision that I had received to the leadership, I was told that I could only do children ministry and nothing more.  Basically, I feel that God is calling me to not only do children ministry, but also youth and college, but the leadership, that I have had since I was twelve years old, but worked with for three years as on staff.  Should I go with what I feel that God is leading me to do, or what the leadership is saying that God is leading them to say to me, I have talked to my family and friends and they feel the same as I do, please help me with this.

  • Posted by

    I can’t tell you what a blessing all of these postings on “is it time to leave” have been to my husband and I. We have been struggling for over 18 months with feelings of restlessness, discouragement, and a sense that Goad is calling us to something else. He has been in his current ministry position as youth minister for 5 1/2 years, and we have dealt with everything from apathy among students and other church members, to a “we want to grow, but don’t want to do the work” mentality, if people drive by and see my husband’s car is not at the church, they think he’s not working, and the worst was probably : outright slander by a church member while we were dating/engaged/newly married that resulted in being very divisive among the students and causing a lot of emotional hurts - some that probably will never heal. It became so bad at one point that we had to ask the pastor to intervene on our behalf to try and stop it. The other issue that we continually struggle with is our financial situation. When my husband accepted this job, he was right out of seminary, with no dependents (we met three years later) and a single person could live on what he was making. However, in the past 2 years, his household grew by 2 - we had our first child this year, and his salary has not grown to reflect that. I am sure that some of you would say to me “get a job” - but that is not something that we feel is God’s way for our family, besides, who wants to work just to pay for daycare, which is what I would be doing. The church does pay for our insurance, which we are very thankful for, but to be honest about how things are for us at times - we have had to by groceries/diapers on our credit card serveral times this year, or we don’t have them. We are sometimes left with literally a few dollars in our checking account.
    I said all that to say, when we look at being here long term, it does look like a long dark tunnel - the thought of continuing to struggle financially month after month (while we are living on a third of what some of the people in our church make!) and be in a church where it’s more about pleasing people than pleasing God is just downright depressing! I have seen my husband almost burn out completely, almost walk away from his job, and work so hard to plan events and have 1 kid show up - it is so hard sometimes to see him so defeated!(that is another issue - at what point do church members have any accountability? how long do you hold their hands and spoon feed them before they will show up on their own without being called 5 times, reminded every time you see them, and sent a note in the mail?) We are just waiting expectantly for God to show us His will four our next step, and will go wherever he leads. I agree with some of the other postngs that deciding if you should stay or go is very difficult, and is a decision that should not be made without the certainty it is what God wants for you. Be assured, though, that you are not alone in your struggles… others know how you feel!

  • Posted by

    Though are situations may be very different, what most of us have in common is the wounds taken. 

    “In this world you will have trouble...” said Jesus.  We can’t run from it.  For me the issue at hand isn’t taking criticism, or insults, or even being judged now and then.  That is “normal”.  The issue I encourage you to look at is patterns of sadistic behavior (it may be very subtle).  It is our responsibility to confront it as lovingly as possible being clear about who we are (loved by God) and that sadistic behavior disguised in Christian leadership clothes will not be tolerated by us.  Christ freed us from the “law” and condemnation so that we can be with him for eternity, but also have life to the fullest.  It isn’t heaven, but we have been saved from condemnation…

    I have ordered the book mentioned, and can’t wait to read it.  What God has shown me is to walk into the heat once (Christ was there), to see what can be learned about myself (what sin in me that I don’t see).  God uses all things, even evil in churches to make us holy.  That is the most important thing.  Don’t volunteer to be a martyr, there may be a time when you don’t have a choice, but don’t go looking for it. 

    Your spouse is the next important thing.  Protect her (him).  The scriptures tell us to guard our hearts with ALL deligence.  I think we have responsibility to guard our spouses hearts.  Your “church” is replacable, your spouse isn’t. 

    You are not alone, I too am in a lot of pain.  Take heart, God saw this coming, He knows your pain and He is just involved in your life as ever.

  • Posted by

    “Don’t volunteer to be a martyr, there may be a time when you don’t have a choice, but don’t go looking for it.”

    I love that statement!

    My wife and I were talking last night - been in the ministry over 12 years - trying to figure out what on earth we did to garner all this criticism against us?  We fully understand that in the World we will have tribulation – but does that mean in the Church? – the Body of Christ?  The criticism we have endured is because we cleaned up a few Sunday School rooms that had dangerous stuff in them so our kids would be in a safe place! 

    So, why are we in this place? We thought we could help.  We thought all they needed was some love, care, encouragement, and gentle leadership – boy we’re we wrong!  They wanted nothing of the sort!  They liked their dark, dingy rooms – they liked their selfish lives!  And so know we are trying to maintain a positive attitude – we don’t return railing for railing, we bless when cursed and love when hated – why – because that is who Christ changed us to be.

    But I am more and more troubled with this thought – is this the place I want to raise my children in?  Are these the people I want my kids thinking are Christians?  Would I be in a sense sacrificing my children on the altar of “duty?”

  • Posted by

    It appears I may be in the minority but I am trying to get into a full time ministry.  I have been a bi-vocational minister for 8 years. Working as a Supervisor in a local factory I have been through the polotics and the heartbrakes on the secular side and I have learned that each one of these is a part of the process.  Recently after 28 years the company was purchased by an Austrian group and closed. All I got was a letter in the mail saying you no longer have a job.  Dont bother to come to work.  The severance packages were cancelled as well.  28 years and a letter was it.  No congregation that is God inspired would ever be that cruel.  The mininstry is tough.  It wasn’t meant to be easy or anybody could do it.  But My Lord and Savior Jesus Christs has been schooling me for the last 30 years and I look forward to the opportunity.  I pray for all the ministers out there who have given and given and seem to recieve so little in return.  Its not the job, it’s not the people.  Our war is not with them, it’s with Satan and he loves discouragement.  Our battle is to keep our guard up and fight each and every day and hour with hope and love and determination.  When you can’t fight anymore then its time to take a break.  I just want to get into the fray full time and do my part.  God bless you all.

  • Posted by

    I have dealt with many internal problems (sin), inability to retain visitors, people vocally oppossing church growth, public (in worship service) insults of myself and “all these foreigners” that I have brought into the church, etc., etc., etc.

    The latest comment was just last Sunday at a business meeting when someone said “Pastors come and go, but we must stay together.”

    No wonder this congregation cannot thrive. So it seems that God has brought His own solution…

    New Year’s will be my eleventh anniversary at this church. We close escrow on the sale of the property on Monday and the corporation will be dissolved by the end of the year.

    Dashed dreams? Loss of vision? Yes, but now a more realistic picture. This is the church of Sardis.

  • Posted by

    Well, this is the first time I have read a blog log.  All the things that people are struggling with can be overwhelming to take in.  I recently decided that I needed to leave my current church.  I do not have a “next” call.  What I proposed to my church was a six month interim transition where I would stay on while I looked for God’s direction and they looked for their next pastor.  It is a graceful way to part as well as it being sent out by the church to our next call.  This sunday the Elders will announce this to the congregation.  I have a part-time asociate pastor who is considering applying for the senior pastor position.  I felt for him to serve as interim and candidate for the position would be bad for him and the church.  I have been considering leaving for at least a year now because of a lack of vision and heart to continue with the church.  I guess you can check with me in a few months to ask how its working out.  I felt it was God’s answer for us and the church.  We have three kids in school who we would like to see finish the year at our present location.  I will be looking for God’s new direction for us over the next 6 months and hope to start a new work by August.  My hope in sharing this approach to leaving is that it will help someone see that there are many good ways to say goodbye if you seek God’s way.

  • Posted by

    Having read all the postings, I saw myself over and over, I am a part-time associate minister who would like a full-time ministry position. I am currently an elementary school teacher and have often stated that the only way I would leave education is to go into the ministry full time. However, just the partime work I do has caused tremendous strife at home and in the church. Throught it all however, God has and continues to sustain me. When I start to feel overwhelm, I remember that my Savior had it much worse than I do and yet he continued to perservere, because He loved me and The people he has called me to serve. So if I must suffer ( AND ALL OF US IN THE MINISTRY MUST) I know that I am not alone. Because you my brothers and sisters and continuing to pray for me and we are keeping one another lifted. So to all who reads these words I remind you to stay strong in the Lord, because He is our rock, our sword and shield.

  • Posted by

    What ever you do, brothers and sisters, it is important to remember that your family—if you are married (and/or have children living at home)—is your first, and primary place of ministry. The ‘ministry at church’ should not replace our commitment to our ‘first ministry’—our home and marriage.
    I want to believe that one way God may be trying to communicate to us at times (regarding whether we should be in ministry or not) is by gauging the ‘temperature’ of our homes. If the strife at church has followed you home and invaded your home relationships, protect your home first. Sometime, that means stepping away from fulltime work at church—maybe just a while, maybe for good.

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