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One more thing to blame the megachurch for…

Orginally published on Wednesday, August 05, 2009 at 7:31 AM
by Todd Rhoades


According to an article in USA Today, the megachurch is also partly responsible for the demise of the outdoor baptism (you know, the whole 'getting baptized in a lake or river' thing. Bad megachurch.

The article makes this glaring accusation: "Outdoor baptisms are rapidly disappearing in America. Once prevalent in the rivers and deltas of the South, the ritual has been nearly extinguished by indoor pools, mega-churches and modernization, researchers and ministers say."

I don't know what is worse, the dang indoor pools, the despicable megachurch, or the evil of indoor plumbing. But it seems that they all have it out against outdoor baptisms. Seems to me that the dirty water, mud, and yuckiness of most rivers might have something to do with it. (NOTE: no one from USA Today called and asked my opinion though)...

The article continues:

No one keeps statistics on outdoor baptisms, which are performed predominately by Baptists and Pentecostals. But officials at the Southern Baptist Convention, the largest grouping of Baptist churches in the USA, say of the 342,000 baptisms performed last year by its member churches, the vast majority were done indoors.

“Most churches, even small ones, have indoor baptisteries,” says Rob Phillips, a spokesman for LifeWay Christian Resources, the SBC’s publishing and research arm. “That’s culturally the way folks do it these days.”

The tradition of submerging someone in a river to wash away their sins began in Europe, came to America in the 18th century and spread across the South by Baptist ministers, Daniels says. The Christian tradition replicates Jesus’ baptism in the Jordan River by John the Baptist 2,000 years ago.

African slaves on plantation churches in the South quickly adopted the tradition, says Shayne Lee, an assistant professor of Sociology and African Diaspora Studies at Tulane University. The slave who walked down to the river for his baptism was publicly embracing Christianity while shedding his African religious beliefs, Lee says.

“For slaves in particular, it was not only a statement of faith, but a political statement,” he says. “It was a statement to the world: ‘I am now connected to Christianity.’”

In the 1950s, churches modernized to draw more parishioners and began constructing indoor pools for baptisms, Lee says. Later, as thousand-seat mega-churches began replacing smaller, rural churches, outdoor baptisms further dwindled, he says.

“We now have a whole generation of churchgoers who grew up in mega-churches, where indoor baptisms are the norm,” Lee says. “Outdoor baptisms just don’t resonate anymore.”

NOTE:  We now have a whole generation of churchgoers who grew up in mega-churches.  No, not really.  Actually, not at all.

And… Outdoor baptisms just don’t resonate anymore.  True.  I wonder if the church in acts would have used indoor plumbing if they had it available.  My guess is yes.  Churches of 20 people have baptistries.  They have for years.  The lack of outdoor baptisms has NOTHING to do with large churches.
Here’s the link to the whole article at USA Today...

OK… what do you think?  Let the Todd-bashing begin!  smile

Todd


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  There are 23 Comments:

  • Posted by Dave Travis

    Obviously the reporter didn’t check with New Hope Hawaii, Mars Hill Seattle, Flamingo Road in South Florida, New Spring in South Carolina and the dozens of large churches that do HUGE baptism celebrations outside on a regular basis.

  • Posted by Jim Akins

    interesting, our megachurch has had several outdoor baptisms at the local lake. one of our church plants is conducting an outdoor baptism at the river for their 3rd anniversary. but i have to admit we do have one of them fancy indoor plumbing pools for those cold wintry days. amazing!

  • Posted by jennifer

    Todd, we’ve brought back the outdoor baptism… While some lakes here are frankly too unsanitary to step in, we’ve found a local quarry lake and now host our annual picnic there, and the baptism ceremony is a part of it.  It also gives members a chance to invite their friends who normally wouldn’t set foot in a church, but will come to a picnic.  Great way to share faith....

  • Posted by Jesse Phillips

    this is so silly, who even cares? Let’s focus on learning to love God and love our neighbor, if we ever get that right, then we can worry about indoor or outdoor baptism!!!

  • Posted by John

    There’s no surprise that USA Today didn’t do any real research on the subject, heck, I’m even surprised that they tried to touch on it at all. As a partner of LifeChurch.tv I can tell you that we do both outdoor and indoor baptisms for people that have been reborn through faith in Christ and the result is the same in or outdoors, and that’s lifechange. That’s what USA Today should have written about, but I don’t expect to be seeing that article anytime in the near future.

  • Posted by

    must have been a slow news day for USA Today. pretty stupid, waste of time article.

  • Posted by

    Just another article trying to manufacture confusion where there is none. Trying to create cliff-hangers where there are no cliffs. The news media thrives on controversy and if they can’t find a lgetimate one, they do all they can to create one.
    I didn’t finish the whole article, but in any of this did they put in any kind of positive remarks that THERE ARE STILL BAPTISMS HAPPENING? That is the important fact. That there are still people being saved and the church is still baptizing. God is still on the throne and He is still at work in the lives of His children.

  • Posted by

    I say we blame it on the 2 great evils of the day - iPhones & twitter.

  • Posted by

    I guess they didn’t bother to check us out either, we’ve done almost 200 baptisms since January, most of which were outdoors.

  • Posted by Richard Vissers

    “The tradition of submerging someone in a river to wash away their sins began in Europe”

    Really?  So John the Baptists ministry was in Europe?  smile

  • Posted by Peter Hamm

    A silly and ridiculous article, and yes, Linda, iPhones and twitter are evil, I agree… (that was a hilarious remark. Thanks!)

    Forgot Willow… they do all their baptisms outside, too, don’t they.

    We have an indoor baptistry, but do most of our baptisms outside at our yearly church on the beach event.

  • Posted by

    Willow does large outdoor baptisms once a year in June at the end of their “ministry year” so to speak, while they do indoor baptisms now once a month I believe using a baptistry. (they used to only do them twice a year - once during the cold months indoors where they just “sprinkled” and once outdoors in the summer.) But they were massive in scale. Usually 800 on up. As has always been the case however, even if you’re baptized on stage, you can choose to do it again outside in the lake when that comes around.

    What I find interesting - I grew up presbyterian and methodist in traditional churches. Until I went to Willow in my 20s, I never even knew people were baptized in ponds, lakes, etc. and had NEVER heard of an indoor baptistry. That just sounded weird to me! All I knew of baptism was seeing infants being baptized with water touched to their forehead by the minister - nothing more than that, as was I when I was an infant.

  • Posted by Alan Jones

    We would beg to differ.  This is from Sunday night:

    http://www.ajwired.com/ccc-baptism-video/

  • We just did 42 outdoor baptisms two weeks ago.  What’s funny is unlike this article, we heard the opposite from a few people..."Why’d we spend money on a baptistery if we’re not going to use it”?  Sometimes you just can’t win.  smile

  • Posted by

    We just had our Big Blue Lake Baptism Bash at a local park nearby.  Big church-wide picnic and baptism!  Must have missed us since we’re not a MEGA church by their standards.

  • Posted by

    Peter,
    That’s a great event “Church on the beach"… I’m going to bring this idea to our congregation… I minister in the city and it would be a change of atmosphere to have church on the beach…

    one of my mentors Rev. Dr. James Wately have “Church at the Mall” services every Sunday… and it’s a great outreach ministry… They set up a full scale church service…

    as to the article… indoor or outdoor… at least they are baptizing...many today have gone away from baptizim period… when we consider many of our ancestors and how they were baptized… we today have become a little sophisicated… when you know who you are and the importance of baptism (our identification with Christ) it won’t matter where you’re baptized at...Jesus died for our sins and the least we could do is go down in some water (even if it’s not the cleanest)…

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    First, take it back Linda, the iPhone and Twitter are invented by Jesus himself!

    Second, I think back to the ethiopian eunuch getting baptized by Philip, “Look! Water! What prevents me from being baptized?” Acts 8:36. So we have the ability to have indoor pools/spas/etc. Big deal, there’s water lets baptize people that want to proclaim faith in Jesus Christ!

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