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Text Meets Text: Preaching with Real Time Feedback

Orginally published on Sunday, February 11, 2007 at 6:50 PM
by Earl Creps

I had an amazing experience last week while preaching the North Central University (http://www.northcentral.edu/) chapel with about 800 millennials in the house. At the beginning of the talk, I announced my cell number and asked them to text me while I was speaking with comments on the presentation. I learned this technique from my friend Sam Farina (http://www.samfarina.com/) and have attempted it only one time previously, and that with an older crowd of about 50 people in a local church.

With the first group we stopped for around ten minutes in the middle of a seminar to make an opportunity for the younger people in the room to train the older ones in texting, the goal of which was to send their first text message to my phone. When over a dozen messages came in almost simultaneously, my “smart” phone had a brain freeze and spontaneously reset itself with no help from me. I think I may have witnessed the first documented case of a PDA experiencing a mental breakdown. The point of the exercise was to provide a case study in reverse mentoring.

But no such issues occurred at NCU. (Of course, I requested that stalkers and anyone with a chainsaw in the trunk of their car refrain from writing down my number.) During the 30 minutes for which I spoke, about 50 text messages arrived. One female student told me later how delighted she was that texting was actually encouraged during a time when it is normally banned.

The next day, I developed a “box score” from the feedback received in real time (and from some messages that straggled in hours later). I pushed back on some of the generic, “liked your talk” messages by asking for details. That really helped. For example, when I asked one student by text reply how he/she evaluated the talk as effective, the response was very direct: “The fact that no one in chapel was asleep.”

In general the messages were positive, except for the person who thought I was too much like listening to “Christian stand up comedy” and another critic who simply blurted, “You smell.” There were also several comments on parts of the talk that were not clear, which they weren’t. I attribute the absence of more negative to the lack of anonymity and the fact that those who don’t like what you do generally just ignore the presentation and move on.

A group of about a dozen young-ish leaders then helped me to process the box score, working through questions of “what” are millennials like (the easy part) and “why” are they that way (the hard part). It’s interesting to watch a 30 year old struggle to understand a 20 year old. We talked through the idea that thinking missionally means getting past the surface traits of a group’s culture and probing the reasons, the things that only the citizens of that culture can teach us.

So, here are some of the communication lessons our processing group discussed after reviewing a summary of the real time feedback provided in the 50 texts:

1. It’s all about the fashion. This group of millennials sees culture and message as inseparable. There were more mentions of my new hipster glasses than of Jesus, more references to my shoes (Skechers) than to the Scripture. (I bought the former to avoid losing unused medical reimbursement funds, and the latter because they were really cheap.) This perspective does not make young adults nonspiritual or superficial. Issues of “loook and feel” are as naturally a part of their language as bulleted lists are of mine. I got the sense that they actually cannot see me apart from my L & F profile, almost as if they were processing me like a video, rather than listening to a live talk (which raises some interesting possibilities of its own--do I really need to show up in person? What if I did, but showed a video of myself anyway?).

2. Humor can have no victim but me. Self-deprecation is the way to go, especially if it reverses any sense of entitlement based on age or position. My favorite text message was, “The glasses should stay. It takes the focus off your bald spot.”

3. The optimal large group communication genre is stand-up comedy. My critic was exactly right. The style of the talk (which was on the missional church) definitely derived from stand up. I’m thinking through this for the first time, but it seems like the value here is that humor is by definition a part of the genre, as is irony and that sort of coy word play that under-25’s seem to enjoy as I do (provided it includes multiple references to TV and film). As one texter put it, “The humor commands attention.” Most of the positive messages, in fact, contained references to the talk being funny.

4. The highest value is authenticity. The “A” word is used so much now as to be almost inauthentic. What I mean by it here is a visceral commitment to the message that invites the listener/texter to look over the precipice with you into something that could rock their whole word. Bible autopsies don’t cut it, so to speak. This kind of A.... seems to require a high level of spontaneity, is helped by using either no notes or a manuscript (for word control), and feels like a roller coaster ride when you’re in the middle of it. What it lacks in polish is made up for in energy, sincerity, and personal commitment. Or as one messenger put it, “You were real.”

5. We are peers, not speaker and audience. A very strong sense came through the cryptic texts that the students regarded me as a peer, not chronologically or culturally, but positionally. In other words, the fact that I was on the platform only raised me above them in terms of architecture. One text put it this way: “Hey, Earl. I have funky glasses too. That means we’re both fabulous.” Speaking with a group of these young adults, then, resembles the internet where all communication is lateral. I can say anything to them (even be extremely confrontational) so long as I never do so to elevate my own position.

6. I have to make the first move. When I am outside the country I do what I can to learn even a few words of the local language or some of the customs that are natural for the area. People who live wherever I am visiting seem to respect even awkward attempts at communicating with them. My NCU experience would say the same thing. On message said, “It’s very cool you text.” Another expressed support for my use of a Coldplay mp3 ("Clocks") during the talk. The point here is not the technology, but the symbolic value of making even a clumsy effort at using the native symbol system. My instinct is that if I take the first chance, they will respond by taking a chance on me.

My first experience with real time sermon feedback leaves me feeling three things strongly:
1. They thought they were in school, but the truth is that I was.
2. I have no idea how the other 750 students responded to the talk.
3. I am definitely going to do this again.

Thanks, Sam.

About the Author:  Earl Creps has spent several years visiting congregations that are attempting to engage emerging culture. He directs doctoral studies for the Assemblies of God Theological Seminary in Springfield, Missouri (http://www.agts.edu).  Earl and his wife Janet have pastored three churches, one Boomer, one Builder, and one GenX. He speaks, trains, and consults with ministries around the country. Earl’s book, Off-Road Disciplines: Spiritual Adventures of Missional Leaders, was published by Jossey-Bass/Leadership Network in 2006. Connect with Earl at http://www.earlcreps.com .

 

 


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  There are 9 Comments:

  • Posted by Randy Ehle

    Wow!  Talk about food for thought!  This makes me hungry...to learn how to better communicate to a generation 20 years my younger.  Sometimes it seems impossible.  I’m so swamped just trying to keep up with my own elementary-age kids that I don’t have time to see the latest movies or TV shows, read the “hot” books, mags, and websites, or even do all the blogging I’d like to.  Thanks, Earl, for lunch.

  • Posted by Stewart

    Your comment about them processing you like a music video rather than a talk was interesting. It’s theater, but if it is too rehearsed it looses authenticity. So the ‘look’ has to actually fit you. Otherwise you are a poser.  You can cross cultures (i.e. Gen X to Millenials) and you do that by learning a bit of language (but not pretending you are not yourself) and being funny in a self-deprecating way.

    Someone should write a book.

  • Posted by

    Earl, seems like everybody’s talking about that chapel speaker last week who gave out his phone number to the entire audience.  It’s been SO well received here at NCU.  Great idea!  People liked getting a response.

  • Posted by Leonard

    Brilliant idea.  I am sure I will steal it.  I speak to a lot of different ages and Earls insights are right on the money.

  • Posted by nakedpastor

    good post! thanks. found your site through smartpastor. keep up the good work. i went to, and met my wife at, CBC. Aker my favorite prof.

  • Posted by Derek

    Earl—Excellent idea...I will steal it for sure! I think it is a great way to connect with an under 35 audience. I think you are right that the “stand up comic” is the cultural model for 21st century preaching. Stand up comics are the rhetoricians of our day. I can hear my “Pentecostal/charismatic” side coming out and saying, “Yes, but we cannot come with persuasive words of human wisdom, but in a demonstration of the Spirit’s power.” I think we need both...wouldn’t you agree? We need both missionally contuextualized communication and the authentic (there is the “A” word) expression of the Spirit’s presence.

    U R DA MAN!

    Derek

  • Posted by Ben Dubow

    Interesting… we tried a similiar thing with text messaging during a sermon just last night at St. Paul’s Collegiate Church (http://www.uconnchurch.com).  I think it worked really well.

    I posted some thoughts about it over here:
    http://www.betachurch.org/2007/02/11/text-message-sermon/

    I’d love to hear what experiences others have had and other ways to use this idea.

    -Ben

  • Posted by Aaron Marshall

    I am looking for a decent service that allows us to accept text messages to a computer through the web.

    Is everyone throwing their numbers out there and sifting through massive amounts of text messages?

  • Posted by Ben Dubow

    I gave out my cell phone # during the service and checked them in live-time during the message.

    I’d love to know how others have done it.

    BD

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