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What I’d Love to See at a Conference…

Orginally published on Sunday, June 01, 2008 at 8:17 AM
by Todd Rhoades

OK... here's the deal. I'm in the planning stages for a huge conference for 2009; and we really want to make this thing pop. The topic is church leadership and church innovation. Of course, there are a multitude of conferences out there right now dealing with leadership and innovation. This one has to be different, and I'd love your help. What would you like to see at a conference that has never been done? Content-wise. Innovation-wise. Networking-wise. I'd love to hear your ideas. Please leave them in the comments section! And thanks!


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  • Posted by Peter Hamm

    Although it no longer pertains to me in the church I work at now, there is usually NOTHING for the pastor of the smaller church, on how to lead in those “small church” situations that are so very different from the large-church ones.

  • Posted by

    I totally hear what Peter is saying and fully support it.
    I’m at the other end of the spectrum in a mega church.
    What I’ve found missing from all the conferences I’ve attended so far is an opportunity to sit down with some of my peers and have a semi-moderated discussion about what our issues are and how others in our same “weight class” are handling them - with the chance to INTERACT, not just passively take notes from yet another brilliant leader.
    And the session has to be longer than 1-2 hours, to really have time to dig in.
    I’m sure this pertains to a church of any size but there are some unique issues that come along as the size of the church increases.

  • Posted by Peter Hamm

    Frank, that’s brilliant! Maybe some “moderated dinners”. Maybe you have faculty sit down to dinner after the day’s events with a limited number of people (say 12) that want to discuss specific issues. DON’T try to do this over breakfast, because you will be too time-constrained.

  • Posted by

    Here is a novel idea. How about a conference on the sufficiency of the Bible?

    OR a conference on the failure of thelocal church in areas of discipleship that has led to the rise of para-church organizations that thrive on hosting conferences to chase the “next big idea”?

    OR a conference on financial stewardship in the area of pastors continually going from conference to conference at the expense of the local church congregation with no accountability because of the rise of “staff led” churches?

    AND a conference on the whole “conference” phenomenon. You can have breakouts like

    1. Why are there SO MANY conferences today?
    2. Why do the same group of people always attend these conferences that basically serve as echo chambers?
    3. What would happen if pastors stop attending 10-15 conferences a year and actually spent that time serving their local congregations?

    Return to the sufficiency of the Bible. The all powerful God doesnt need man’s cleverness or gimmicks to call sinners to salvation. He doesnt need man to continually tell other pastors how to be more innovative with ideas such as being carried to the stage in a coffin or playing with glowsticks in the audience. Save the money, pastors. Preach the Gospel. Stop feeding into the whole conference subculture that has developed. Too many conferences.

  • Posted by Peter Hamm

    Sam,

    We don’t all go to all of those conferences. But I do think a conference or a track on local churches’ failure to produce disciples would be in order, although you and I might differ on what that means.

    And some of these conferences are a GREAT way for pastors to recharge their batteries once a year or so, and they are VERY good for that. We who work full-time in the church need some time away like that BADLY!

    [Return to the sufficiency of the Bible.] There are many pastors who rely on the sufficiency of the Bible who’s churches are failing. I know some of them. These opportunities are great for those guys!

  • Posted by Steve Cuss

    Todd,

    I recently returned from the Exponential Conference and it was excellent.  I was highly encouraged by the overall ongoing thrust of “Its all about the centrality of Jesus.”

    Even so, here was the common narrative from most of the presenters.  “Church planting is tough!  It took us years to get above 200 people.  Now that we’re 1000+, here is what we’re learning.”

    I long for the 200 - 1000 conversation.  I’m not looking to learn HOW to make our church grow.  Our church IS growing!  I want dialogue on how to structure a church while it is growing/what the challenges and pitfalls are etc. 

    BTW, Leadership Network’s interactive conferences are great.  I attended one in Vegas while I was on staff at Central Christian there and the format was wonderful.  An opportunity to hear a presentation and lots of time for interaction.  I think this hits the best of both worlds as any more, conversation with the experts is the most helpful for someone like me

    Steve

  • Posted by

    AND there are those pastors that go from conference to conference attending more than just one all at the expense of the local church.

    Are you saying that the Bible isnt sufficient and we should depend on the wisdom of man more than the Bible?

  • Posted by Eric Wright

    I think the interactive dinners are a great idea. When I have set those up in the past it is necessary to have a moderator/starter type person just to help break the ice at each table and get things going.

    If you are really dreaming...I think that general sessions could be led by the worship/creative arts teams from some of the innovative churches. That way the attendees could experience a live worship service from some of the other churches. Have the music, preaching, everything.

  • Posted by adam mclane

    I agree with what is being said. As someone who goes to a small church… I long to see my pastor learn from guys who are doing what he does. Instead all of the conferences are loaded with people who aren’t doing what he is doing, nor have.

    Fill a conference with accessible leaders, and people who have fought the good fight to get a church from 100 to 500. Church plants don’t count. And eliminate people with churches larger than 1000.

    My ideal conference for a smaller context would be something like the Willow Creek conference with break-outs for applying this and that to specific contexts.

  • Posted by Peter Hamm

    Sam,

    Sure there are some who just go from conference to conference (although I don’t know any personally). That doesn’ make conferences bad. I know some people who over-eat. That doesn’t make food bad. We’re getting off topic, so I’m only going to address this this one time.

    Are you saying the wisdom of men who trust the Bible should never be listened to and we should only ever read the Bible and that no one living has anything to teach us?

    The BIble is all-sufficient? What do we mean by that? Do we mean that we don’t need to learn from others who trust the Bible? Are we saying the Bible saves us? Are we saying that if there was no Bible, that Jesus wouldn’t be enough? Are we saying that if there was not really a Jesus, that the Bible would be enough? Are we saying that when Proverbs says there is wisdom in the counsel of many, that only means there’s wisdom in the counsel of many Bible verses? Are denying the fact that men took time to train pastors and leaders throughout the history of the church, especially and particularly in Acts and Paul’s letters?

    The Bible has everything we need to understand God, His plan, His sovereignty, who Jesus is, and what it all means. That is what sufficiency means. I bet no one here is denying that… But… It can’t save us, and it was never designed by God to be the only way we learn about Him and how we lead and serve in His church. He gave us the community of faith (who follow the Bible), other leaders (who trust the Bible), and even (good) conferences (where people who trust and know the Bible and have learned from experience can teach us… sometimes to not make the same mistakes they make).

    I think you’re trying to make an argument where none exists. Let’s get back on topic.

  • Posted by Peter Hamm

    I would love to bring a team to lead worship that’s all (except me) volunteers… just to show it can be done without “pros”. Don’t need to pay me, just put me up in a relatively clean hotel!

  • Posted by

    I don’t care what the subject matter is., I could use the help in any and all areas. My suggestion: Just serve ice cream during one of the breaks! Chick Filet soft serve icedream would be awesome!

  • Posted by

    GOD!

  • Posted by

    and humility

  • Posted by

    and I am not kidding. Conferences always have the biggest names in show business (oops! sorry church growth and evangelism). The stars are always the headliners. How about a conference on humility, servanthood, the leader/servant, the servant/leader and have the main speaker be someone who has suffered for their “faith” or experienced a loved one or friend die because they believe in Jesus. How about a conference on how to be a humble church.

  • Posted by Derek

    Todd,

    I would love to see a conference with resources for smaller churches. Peter is right. There is little in terms of methodology for smaller churches in smaller communities.

    It would be great to hear a presenter from a healthy (growing?) church in a smaller area, a church in the 150-250 attendance range. The presentations don’t need to be “how to grow your church to 500” either, just some methdological/missiological strategies in a smaller church context.

    I am pastoring a church of about 100 in a town of 18,000 with a declining population. If I am going to spend $300 to attend a conference, what is it that I can put in my tool box that will help my church?

    And then follower up the presentation with small groups. As Frank mentioned above, I would love to connect with smaller church pastors in rural areas.  Small group interaction is a plus, because I don’t attend conferences with my staff. Large church pastors who take their staff to these conferences have an automatic small group. Small church pastors, like myself don’t.

    Presentation are great, but we need a forum to hash out the ideas with other pastors in similar contexts.

    Derek

  • Posted by Krister

    Hmmm.... always wanted to see Prophetic Belly Dancing!

  • Posted by

    I tend to agree with Peter Hamm - something for the smaller church bodies.  Those make up the majority of congregations in the US, but are pretty much ignored when it comes to conferences.  Showing how mega-church XYZ does something is all well and good, but it needs to apply to the smaller congregations or you’re pretty much just chasing after the wind.

    And yes, discipleship is a great idea.  So is how to get your congregation excited about evangelism and local outreach.  We’re pretty much huddle groups waiting for people to come to us at this point.  That needs to change or the local church is going to die even more than we have been in the last 20-30 years.  We’re not relevant, there’s not much evidence of real life change, and we really, really look just like the world (or worse).  Why would people care about the local church if we look and act just like the unchurched?

  • Posted by

    I recently led worship at a pastor’s conference in the Northwest.  My husband was asked to teach a session and he chose “Growing a Dynamic Youth Ministry in the Small Church”

    His was the most attended session.

    We have been in large and small church ministry.  We have often commented that most conferences now are just about worthless to us because they tend to be taught by those in “successful” large churches.  Most churches are well under a thousand.  But most conferences are led by pastors of large churches.  And honestly, unless it’s a topic about the heart, there isn’t a lot there for the small church leader.  Small churches are just a different animal, and I say that as someone who has “successfully” served in both as a staff member, not just a pastor’s wife.

    When we came to this church, our worship leader immediately quit, handed me a stack of spit track cd’s and said “It’s yours”

    I was the ONLY person who could possibly lead worship.  I had an overhead projector, some handwritten lyrics that looked like you know what, a stack of split tracks and me. Sure I had 15 years of voice lessons behind me, but a solo worship leader I was not.

    It took me 3 years to get it together, and do it well and train a team. 

    That’s the kind of story I want to hear from others.  How did you do it, when you had nothing, not even a budget?

    How did you get through the tough stuff?  How did you get a church going when all you had were 18 people who misled you from the beginning and told you how they wanted to grow the church, but really meant they wanted YOU to grow the church?

    I had a really funny story told to me from another pastor.  He was saying how he went to a conference and the main speaker, from a large church in the south, was going to speak on evangelism.  He was excited and got out his notebook, ready to hear and learn.

    The speaker then proceeded to tell how he had this great plan for connecting with visitors that centered around having a golf cart in the church parking lot.

    The greeter in the golf cart would approach the visitor, find out their names, welcome them, then take off and quickly radio someone at the door who would greet the visitors again at the door by name.  Wow, weren’t they impressed.?!  The speaker’s conclusion, no lie was “Every church can afford a golf cart!”

    Our church doesn’t even have a parking lot!

    Other topics, how not to burn out while you have to do most everything! 

    What are the priorities in ministry to grow a church when you have a few core serving members.  (where we are now)

    How do you hang on financially?

    How to meet the needs of family while serving on your own?  How do you keep your kids connected to ministry without bitterness?

    And I too love the break-out session idea.
    We’ve talked about that too, how our biggest need is to connect with others in ministry who are like us and are facing the same issues.  Sometimes we just need to inter-act with peers.  We don’t get that a lot!

  • Posted by Frank Erb

    I’d love to see a conference focused more on having a Christ-like heart as a church leader, regardless of the meaurable results. After all, man looks at the outside, but God looks at the heart, right? (1 Sam. 16:7) How about featuring pastors of smaller churches or ministries who have consistently modeled faithfulness and integrity and Christlikeness, against great challenges, without much of the glory that often accompanies a large setting.  I believe that would be truly inspiring to many of us - and it might even please our Lord more than some other conferences do.

  • Posted by

    Hey Frank: I love what you posted. “I’d love to see a conference focused more on having a Christ-like heart as a church leader, regardless of the meaurable results. After all, man looks at the outside, but God looks at the heart, right? (1 Sam. 16:7) How about featuring pastors of smaller churches or ministries who have consistently modeled faithfulness and integrity and Christlikeness, against great challenges, without much of the glory that often accompanies a large setting.”

    I wholeheartedly agree! Only problem: I don’t think in our lifetime that we will ever see a conference like the one you describe. Everyone has been “hooked” on the biggest names is church business: anything less than the big names won’t get anyone “high”.

  • Posted by Scott

    I’ll throw my hat in with those who are calling for more focus on the smaller church.  The leaders of the megas are almost all great people, incredible speakers, with talent oozing from every pore.  I always enjoy hearing their stories and vision.  But…

    According to the National Congregations Study, 94% of American churches have less than 500 in attendance. 

    I’d like to hear from the “turn around guys” who took an older, struggling, declining church of a couple dozen and grew it to 200 or 300.

    I’d benefit alot from hearing from the guys who took an old traditional church from under a hundred to 250 and from 250 to 500.

    So put me in the “resources and focus on revitalizing and growing the smaller church” column.

    P.S. Chuch Warnock and Shawn McMullen are two guys who could rock a conference like that!

  • Posted by Ted Esler

    Great question.  It’s also one that I am wresting with in my role.  I work for a global missions organization.  These days, anything that stresses global missionary outreach is anathema from the platform of most churches.  There are reasons for this, of course, some of them good, some of them rather stupid.  In any case, our creative team sat down began looking at precisely why it is that churches no longer hold mission conferences and if there was a need to address this issue.

    We also began to attend various conferences around the country and evaluate them.  Most seem to follow a formula.

    Almost 100% of conferences today use celebrity speakers and well known contemporary bands.  This is the “draw” that gets people in the door.  SO… for our event, we are booting the whole idea of well known speakers.  Instead, we are going to use carefully selected field missionaries who are great at presenting but would never get platform time in a typical US conference.

    Having observed this, I yearn to go to a conference that doesn’t feature the “usual list of suspects” (Andy Stanley, Rick Warren, John Piper, etc.).  It’s not because these men have nothing to say - quite the contrary - I love these guys.  The issue for me is that they say it all the time and SOOOOOO many conferences sacrifice their real intention in order to get them onstage (I think it’s the marketing angle more than anything).

    We are presenting our conference as a “No celebrity speakers but real people doing real ministry.” Even the keynote US pastor is a relatively unknown but excellent speaker.

    I think it’s a misnomer that you sacrifice quality by using non-celebrity speakers.  In your case, I also think that the celebrity speakers are probably not the innovators - they perhaps innovated some time ago to get where they are, but have since settled into a whole different era of thier ministries.

    Sorry for the long post…

  • Posted by

    As a full-time Minister of Worship, I’d like to echo the thoughts of Peter and Ted - a conference with no “superstars” would, IMO, have a greater draw than people would think. It’s evidenced by the comments here!  Bring in one or more “regular” worship music teams, bring in “regular” in-the-trenches speakers, and let us all be “regular” together. Let’s let Jesus be the superstar.

    (Having just preached on John 3, the phrase “He must increase, but I must decrease” has really been resonating with me lately.)

    A couple other thoughts…

    I believe there’s very little real innovation out there, and I don’t believe that being innovative should really be a priority (though perhaps that’s a soapbox for another time). Pursuing innovation for innovation’s sake smacks of “chasing the wind” to me. That being said, taking advantage of technology’s newer abilities is a great thing. Being able to “peek in” on the Whiteboard conference sessions a couple weeks ago was great, especially being able to chat live with others while watching - fantastic stuff.

    The other thought is - strive to do the conference with as few sponsors as possible, and with as little “production” as possible. Concert-level production isn’t needed for humble worship and speaking. It also drives costs up. With sponsorship, what you can talk about/demonstrate is limited. For instance, the Worship Summit put on by Integrity last fall was a great idea, but severely limited by sponsors - MediaShout’s a great product, but then no one could hear about any other options and the demo wasn’t about the concept, it was about the product. Same with the Yamaha e-drums, Aviom system, etc. Then also the fact that only Integrity’s own artists were worship leaders, and the songs they used to lead worship were the title tracks for their new albums available for sale in the lobby.

    So that’s a long way of saying, “keep it real”. Let the texts for the day dictate the worship songs. Let the speakers be free to speak as God leads them. Let resources be freely available - go digital if that’s the only way to distribute them freely. Do everything possible to be “local"-focused while still being a high-quality event. Don’t make it about selling books, albums, or anything else. Make it about Jesus, and the rest will take care of itself.

    I hope that doesn’t come across too strongly, but I really believe so many conferences are missing the point these days - so many seem to be about production, big-names, and selling. I am thirsting for more conferences that keep the focus where it needs to be - on the person and work of Jesus.

  • This is my passion, but I think it would be great if life balance & self-care strategies for pastors and other people in ministry was included.

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