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Why I’m No Longer A Fundamentalist

Orginally published on Thursday, January 26, 2006 at 9:03 AM
by Todd Rhoades

Bible_1 We've had an interesting few days here at the MMI blog talking about the word 'fundamentalist'.  We've been discussing how the term and meaning of the word has changed over the years.

James Rutz has an interesting article recently posted at WorldNetDaily.com on why he doesn't consider himself a fundamentalist anymore.  It's an interesting read. James writes...

I was reared as a fundamentalist, and I'm proud of it.

I've got credentials coming out my ears. At age 9, I beat out 5,000 other kids in a Bible memorization contest. At 17, I started a campus Bible study in college. I annoyed my professors by writing papers on obscure Christian subjects and asking cheeky questions in class. Even at this very late date, I could still produce a long list of things I don't do – plus a dusty boxful of oak-leaf clusters for Sunday School attendance. I'm sure you would be terribly impressed by my obvious holiness.

But despite my former fixations on all the externals and rigamajig of devoted churchianity, I would do it all again. If I could reboot my life, I would still opt to grow up on the fundy track. (For a few years, at least.)

Why? Roots. The fundamentalist lifestyle may be weak on social and cultural involvement, but it gets you started with a solid foundation in the Bible. Which means that by 18, you're probably grounded in common sense and the greatest set of values in the world (in stark contrast to many of your peers).

That doesn't mean you'll be impervious to the assaults of liberal blather. After all, there are several million Southern Baptist Democrats – oxymorons all. But even if you don't know right from left, you will know right from wrong, and your chances of doing right will improve vastly.

My confidence in the Bible hasn't waned an ounce in all these years. But I am now what you'd call an evangelical, committed to changing the world through the Gospel and my best human efforts. And therein lies the reason for today's column.

In my slow little march toward making a difference on this planet, I've violated the tenets still held by many fundamentalists today: that the church is foredoomed to be a miserable failure and will have to be rescued from utter disaster by Christ's return; that we have no business trying to reform the world, our job being only evangelism; and that we should meekly "be subject unto the higher powers." (Reminder: When you vote, you are the higher powers.)

As my reward for filling up this space on a weekly basis, I get e-mails – with ever-helpful suggestions. Some of them are from keen-eyed fundies dutifully noting my drift into misguided efforts to reform humanity and clean up the planetary swamp. They fire off sharp rebukes for my naivete and lack of biblical perspective. Their fresh prose even includes clever phrases like, "polishing the brass on the Titanic."

But by far their most effective challenge is, "Jim, where does the New Testament say we're supposed to go out and reform society? Jesus just told us to love God, lead holy lives, and disciple the nations." Well, I must admit that apart from some general commands to be "salt and light" and so forth, there aren't a lot of specifics. No plans to unseat Caesar or combat that era's rampant infanticide, for instance.

But the early believers did those things – and more – without even a settled New Testament to tell them to. Why? Because that's what we do. We are Christians. God lives in us, and we recoil against corruption, immorality and the 1,001 faces of sin.

When a drug ring moves into town, we don't consult the Bible to see if we should do anything about it. When an abortion clinic wants to set up shop next door, we don't accept their nonsense about "choice." When politicians siphon off public money, we don't look the other way. When TV producers want to show homosexuals making love, we don't shrug our shoulders and say, "Well, it's a free country."

When a tornado destroys a city, we're among the first to show up with help. When whole tribes or nations are hit by famine, we organize to bring food. When the homeless are down and out, we are usually there with our soup kitchens and shelters.

And likewise when the New World Order and hundreds of other Illuminati retreads aspire to destroy the world by restructuring it along God-free lines, we fight them tooth and nail. It's not that we have abandoned the Lord's great commission to evangelize the world or slipped back into the 1920s "social gospel" of self-improvement. It's just what we do. We are Christians. We hate evil, and we fight it by our deepest instincts.

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Some people think that it's impossible to be like James... to keep biblically sound without retaining the word 'fundamentalist' attached to your name.  I would side with James on this one.  I, as well, grew up as a 'fundamentalist' but would not use that name to describe me now.  I have not changed at all in regards to my theology or basic belief in the tennants of the faith; however I don't fit the narrow social path or agenda of the old-school fundamentalist.

My purpose here isn't to debate the pros or cons of fundamentalism; or to debate the definition.  But I do wonder this... how many of you would consider yourself to still be a fundamentalist?  How many of you would consider yourself to be an ex-fundamentalist?  How many would have never called yourself one?  I find this interesting... let's hear what you have to say.

Oh, and the words "Rick Warren" are not allowed to appear in any of your reponses.  smile

Todd


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  • Posted by

    All I can say is that it does not take much discernment to see that quite a number of popular preachers are false prophets. When they speak in situations like this, they do so out of the abundance of their hearts. There are tons of doctrinal errors that Mr. Warren has taught in his books, and there are projects that he is involved with that are, to say the least, very scary. The grand delusion of the last days is certainly setting in, and people are now giving heed to seducing spirits and doctrines of demons. I have no doubt that Rick and others like him will lead many astray with their utterances and teachings. (Say I’m judging him if you like, but be careful not to find me guilty of that, else you too will be guilty of judging me for judging him! Where does this “judgment” silliness end?)

  • Posted by

    Bank,

    There are still some very popular pastors that are are very solid, I would recommend John Macauthur to you. And what’s interesting is, that he is considered a “fundementalist” by many, do a search on the web and you’ll see he’s refered to as a fundementalist a lot.

  • Posted by Randy Ehle

    Bank, it’s easy to sit at our keyboards and say So-and-So is going to “lead many astray”.  You have accused Rick Warren of doctrinal errors in his books; would you back that up with quotes from his books and scriptural references?  You HAVE judged him, and I am asking you by what measure you are judging.  I expect you will respond “by the measure of scripture,” so please lay your cards on the table and enlighten us.

  • Posted by Todd Rhoades

    Oh dear.

  • Posted by

    Randy, Bank, et al…

    In case Todd is napping, I’m sure he’d nip this one in the bud. We’ve gone down this road before on other posts. You can look for them. This post was not about RW or SS churches or any of that. Let’s give Todd a break and not make him have to delete our posts.

    Sorry, Todd, not trying to do your job, but I know you’re feeling lousy....

    Peter

  • Posted by Randy Ehle

    Let me clarify the intent of my earlier post: my intent was merely to ask Bank to justify a statement he made ["There are tons of doctrinal errors that Mr. Warren has taught in his books...."]; i.e., to hold him accountable for his words.  My intent was NOT to launch an ad hominem attack on Bank (boy, I love Latin!).

    I find it very easy to sit at my computer and write things like “what so-and-so said is unbiblical”.  It’s more time consuming and therefore more difficult to point out the specifics of where I think someone has strayed from biblical truth.  From my experience on MMI over the past few months, I would guess that I’m not the only one who struggles with that.

    While I would expect that the majority of readers here are followers of Christ, we are also at various levels of maturity and experience in that relationship.  Therefore, I believe it is incumbent upon us to choose our words carefully and, when suggesting that something or someone is unbiblical, to back that up with scripture.

  • Posted by Todd Rhoades

    Thanks, Peter.  This flu thing still has me down.  Thanks, everyone, for staying somewhat nice in my absence.  smile

    Yes… let’s DO stay on topic.

    Todd

  • Posted by

    “Oh, and the words “Rick Warren” are not allowed to appear in any of your responses.  smile

    Todd”

    I have posted that I am still a fundamentalist, and even though I have read every post and remark as why one is and one isn’t, I have come to the conclusion that I am still glad I am.

    The author, being a Southern Baptist, said he had been inculcated in fundamental circles since he was 9 or so… I didn’t make it until I was 24, so he has a 15 year lead on me. Perhaps when I arrive at my 15th year, I might be able to say I’m not a fundamentalist but because I am a Christian, “Why? Because that’s what we do. We are Christians. God lives in us, and we recoil against corruption, immorality and the 1,001 faces of sin.” to quote the author, but there is the rub.

    I don’t believe that all people that are in churches are saved and hence, neither fundamentalists nor Christians. If you don’t hold to a set of foundational beliefs, core beliefs, as 1) the Deity of Christ, 2) Salvation by Grace alone, 3) Resurrection of Christ, and 4) the gospel. Then we are bumpin’ a stump.

    We can base our basic tenets on anything and say they are our values, mission, or core beliefs, but they are like wood, hay and stubble compared to the gold, silver and precious stones that Paul spoke of in his message to the Corinthians; “For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ 1Co 3:11.”

    Jesus is the foundation, the firm foundation that we must build our Christian walk, talk, and ministry on, being careful not to exclude anything that might hurt someone’s feelings just because they are in sin or unsaved. Jesus was kind to the sinner, because everyone he spoke with was an unrepentive sinner, we have to be discerning, knowing that the people we are ministering to ‘might’ be saved (not by their actions), and they ‘might’ get offended and hop churches it we don’t coddle them into ours. Praise God.

  • Posted by

    Jay 2.1 says: [I have posted that I am still a fundamentalist, and even though I have read every post and remark as why one is and one isn’t, I have come to the conclusion that I am still glad I am].

    Jay, I consider myself a fundamentalist as well, people consider John Macauthur one, and tons of more of godly men and women as well. Even the official definition is still close enough to the traditional.  With all that said “no man” expecially a brother in Christ should ever make a broad stab at Christian Fundamentalist.

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