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    From Our MMI Exit Poll:  80% of You Voted for McCain… Now What?

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    What are your thoughts this morning? Do you think this election will really have that big of an impact, positive or negative, on your life and ministry?

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    1. Leonard on Wed, November 05, 2008

      I did not know who won until I got home about 11pm last night.  My day was that crazy.  When I got home I posted this on my Facebook. 


      Today something historic happened. Many people I know will miss it because of politics. Our country, my country just elected an African American as president. WOW! Think about this for a minute.


      Were it 145 years ago the man who is president would be property. The man who is president would have no education except what was done illegally as it was against the law to teach a black person to read or write. The man who is president could not vote, move, go to school and a whole list of other restrictions all based upon the color of his skin, were it 145 years ago.


      Were it 100 years ago, he would not be able to own property, he would not be able to sit in the same church as a white person, he could not look a white person in the eyes, play sports with a white person and I am sure you get it.


      Today is hugely historic. I am so proud to be an American. I did not vote for Obama, his ideas and his ideology are not mine. His politics are not in line with what I hold to be true, but I will say this. I will pray for MY president.

    2. Nora on Wed, November 05, 2008

      Well put, Leonard!

    3. Brian L. on Wed, November 05, 2008

      I agree.  He wasn’t my candidate, but he will be my president come late January.


      I will pray for him (not against him as many Christians did against Clinton and will do against Obama), just as I did for Clinton and Bush.

    4. Derek Vreeland on Wed, November 05, 2008

      Right on Leonard!  That was well written. (Hey send me a friend request so I can follow you on facebook.)


      Neither of the candidates for president were mine. I did vote for one of them, although I am choosing to keep that private.


      How will this election effect our church? Good question. For me it will have a positive effective, because it will get our attention back on the work of the kingdom. I have heard and participated in too many political conversations in the last few weeks. I am ready for us to gain our bearings (again) and reinsert our faith in the kingdom of God and not the policies of man.


      Derek

    5. vev from teak furniture on Wed, November 05, 2008

      Nice post! Well written.

    6. Jim on Wed, November 05, 2008

      If he enacts into legislation that which he has said he willenact: federally sanctioned gay marriage, expanded and federally funded abortion rights, higher taxes, the fairness doctrine regarding radio talk shows and Christian programming, as well as funding a private security force, it doesn’t take a genius to figure out that this could bring down all kinds of open persecution to the church through fines and restricted realms of speech.  I know this sounds crazy to many, but it’s already happening in Canada, where pastors have been prosecuted and are imprisoned for hate speech when they have spoken out against the homosexual life style, as well as in England where it’s illegal to teach homeschool childen that gay marriage is sin and wrong. 


      To be proud that a black man has been elected president is nothing but racism at work within the electorate.  If our votes weren’t based upon morality and the policies that protect our freedoms granted us, then we will pay a terrible price over time.  I predict that within six months there will be a tremendous outpouring of buyers remorse.


      I have already spoken to several small business owners re. Obama’s tax plans, and they are looking at laying people to meet the increased tax burden.  So, the finances of churches will be stretched and challenged even further.  As energy bills rise, with his plan to tax the coal energy plans out of existence, due to new enviornmental laws he wants to enact, how are the open-minded and the narrow-minded going to afford to keep their lights on? 


      Will his policies have a negative impact on the Church.  Religious freedom to the “right of conscience”, and to Biblical teaching will be stripped from the people in time.  There have already been two law suits against Bible publishers for hate speech because of its position on homosexuality.  When Obama seats over 1000 federal judges, who disregard the Constitution and make up laws as they go along, how long will it be until the Church and its theology end up in the courts for hate crimes?  To deny it could happen, one doesn’t know his history well, Germany started out this way eighty years ago, and the Church of Germany has never recovered from its passivity to Hitler’s socialistic policies, and Hitler made friends with the Church at first, but then turned on them when they spoke-out.  Does anyone remember Bonhoffer?  It could easily happen in the United States, as well.

    7. Leonard on Wed, November 05, 2008

      Jim,


      I am not sure where the racism comment is coming from.  I am proud of my country that would allow someone who 145 years ago would have been property and today He is the president.   Politics aside, this is a huge thing.


      To put Obama and Hitler in the same paragraph is offensive.  I care deeply about his politics, it is why I did not vote for him.  But to cast the two in the same light as you did, that is ignorant of history.

    8. Andy Rowell on Wed, November 05, 2008

      The 80% is remarkably similar to Christianity Today Politics blog findings at


      The Evangelical Electoral Map (Updated)


      http://blog.christianitytoday.com/ctpolitics/2008/11/the_evangelical.html


      Exit polls say 26 percent of American voters called themselves evangelical or born-again Christians, and of these, 74 percent voted for McCain, with 25 percent voting for Obama. (Another measure put the percentage of evangelicals at 23 percent, with 73 percent voting for McCain, 26 percent for Obama.)

    9. Christopher Lytle on Wed, November 05, 2008

      Last night I decided to write a letter to President Obama.  If you would like to read it in it’s entirety feel free to shoot on over.  Below you will find the beginning.


      ————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————- Dear President Obama,


      Congratulations.  It seems like just yesterday that you gave your key note speech at the Democratic National Convention.  I remember watching you thinking to myself, “this guy is going to president one day” - If I’m honest, I had no idea it would be this soon.


      You should know upfront that I didn’t vote for you.  It’s not a personal thing, it’s just politics.  I disagree with a lot of things that you stand for, however, your idealism is inspiring.  You see, I’m a dreamer.  I believe that the impossible is possible.  I believe that things don’t have to be just because they have always been.  I relate with your optimism and your desire for change even if I disagree with some of the particulars.


      It is true that I am a Christian, a pastor in fact, and according to some I am supposed to loath you.  I am supposed to disagree with everything you stand for because you are a democrat, and a liberal one at that.

    10. Jamie on Wed, November 05, 2008

      I think “right sizing” one’s elation or disappointment is healthy today. There’s no way Obama can live up to the expectations some people have of him and it’s unlikely he’ll be as bad or evil as some people fear. My life hasn’t been all that different yet this morning!

    11. Ed on Wed, November 05, 2008

      To Leonard (and all MMI bloggers):


      Thank you for recognizing, embracing, and celebrating this moment in our history as Americans. 


      I, as a Christian African-American, am very encouraged to know that there are other brothers and sisters in the Lord who are willing to step back a moment and to see how great of a moment this is for our country, whether you voted for President-Elect Obama or not.


      Thanks Leonard and I would hope that others would join in with you. 


      And to Jim, you have every right to express your views.  All I will say is that I disagree with much of what you said, especially the fact that being proud of a black man being elected as the President is “racism at work in the electorate.”  I am, quite honestly, shocked that you would say something like that, knowing the history of this country regarding blacks.  That is not racism, Jim, that is simply being proud that our country has progressed to this point in terms of race. 


      You know, I would encourage all Christians, if you haven’t made this a practice already, to sit down with other brothers and sisters in Jesus who are not of your race, denomination, political party, etc. and build a relationship with them.  I think that would do us, the Church, a world of good in terms of how we view things, as well as how we express things in blogs, sermons, etc. 


      The thing that I hope we all remember to do is to not speak presumptously because we are not God, therefore, we honestly do not know how things will turn out.  That is why we should pray for our leaders and continue to pursue Jesus and His mission for us as a church. 


      Let’s continue to place our hope in Jesus and not in the government.  But let us also not bury our heads in the sand and not recognize this moment in history. 


      Thanks again, Leonard.

    12. Pastor Dan on Wed, November 05, 2008

      Had to leave a comment when I saw that the word that I had to enter was “Europe71” - that is where Obama would like to take us.  He loves and favors the political model that Western Europe has embraced.   We should pray for him and continue to be faithful to our task to share the good news of the gospel and disciple those that already know Christ.  IF tougher times come to the church because of the current administration - then we must pray that it will strengthen the church and heighten our resolve and passion to live faithfully to Christ.

    13. Peter Hamm on Wed, November 05, 2008

      We live in a nation that has decided to replace its government leaders and there is no violence or rioting or soldiers in the streets of my city with guns. That is rare and precious and I am thankful for it and proud of it…


      I can scarcely believe that our nation doesn’t care what your skin color is anymore. I wasn’t convinced we had come this far. I am in disagreement with much of Obama’s politics and probably with his policies, but…


      I will pray hard for him right now that he picks good advisors.


      Today is an astoundingly good day to be an American.

    14. Tim Winton on Wed, November 05, 2008

      Greetings


      I agree that this is a time to honor the acomplishment of seeing our country continue to progress pass the sin of racisim.


      What did we learn is more important though


      President Elect Obama was not my canidate and I do not agree with him on the core issues but he will be my President and I will continnue to pray for him that the Lord would lead and guide him.


      He offered to things that appealed to most of America and that was Change and Hope.


      As Christians We serve a God that not only offers those but is the Hope and Change this country and world not only longs for but needs. We have the answer


      Let us continue to show and offer the God of hope and Change, Jesus Christ.

    15. Ed on Wed, November 05, 2008

      Here is something that I just posted on my blog to answer your questions Todd:


      We are Witnesses!


      We have just witnessed an historic moment in our nation! Congratulations to President-Elect Obama!


      Although we, as Christians, do not place our hope in government, but in Jesus, I believe it is important for us as individuals to take a step back and to recognize, embrace, and celebrate this moment, regardless of whether you voted for President-Elect Obama or not.


      Now, one thing that has been cemented in my mind and heart during this political season has been this, we, as the Church, must be careful not to speak presumptuously nor to tie ourselves more to a political party than to Jesus. Because, after all, and contrary to some thinking, our country is not a theocracy, like Israel in the Old Testament. It is a democracy that prides itself on freedom (speech, religion, etc.) and justice for all. So that in and of itself changes the nature of government and how we apply Scripture to it or how we draw parallels to it from the Old Testament.


      But here is a final thing that I want to say. We were witnesses of an historic moment yesterday. That is undeniable. But more importantly, for the Christian, we are witnesses today for Jesus to the world. As many, if not all, of us repent for how we lost our way during this political season by attacking each other and saying things that were not reflective of Jesus, let us renew our vigor for the cause of Jesus and our efforts to “maintain the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace” (Eph. 4:3).


      Let us remember that our allegiance is to and our hope is in Him and not our goverment. Let’s pray for our new President and all of our political leaders that they will lead well. More importantly, let’s continue to pursue Jesus and His mission for us as the Church.

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