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Would You Rather… You Stink or That’s Gross

Orginally published on Sunday, February 03, 2008 at 5:00 PM
by Todd Rhoades

Last week, we started a new series called "Would You Rather"... and it seemed to go over pretty well. You can check out last week's question here... It was about a 50/50 split between confronting your worst church antagonizer or getting a root canal. This week's question is this: Which would you rather do? Tell one of your worship team singer (who is a big tither, by the way) that they won't be able to sing on the team anymore because... well, they can't sing; or would you rather drink a half dozen raw eggs? (As you can tell... this is more for fun than any scientific research). I'd love to hear your answer and comments...

Leave your comment below.

And also, I’d love for you to send me a recommended “Would You Rather” question for next week…

Have a great week!

Todd


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  • Posted by

    Rather do neither, but then I don’t mind worship team singers who are a little off key whether they tithe or not.

    The question reminded me of my favorite Andy Griffith episode, though, when Barney wants to sing a solo in church so the entire choir conspires to turn off his mike and have someone else sing from backstage (all without Barney’s knowledge) so that they can spare Barney’s feelings.

  • Posted by

    I would rather delegate the news to someone else and then have them drink raw eggs for me too.  Actually neither one would bother me.

  • Posted by Peter Hamm

    I’d rather not ever have had them on the team in the first place, but “firing” somebody from the worship team? Even if they don’t stink, but maybe just aren’t right for what you’re doing?

    Ugh… I hate it. You feel the fallout for that for months.

  • Posted by

    I would rather ask a Worship Team member to step down than drink raw eggs. I just don’t like Eggs. Actually there is always another route: Suggest voice lessons. But if you “audition” your members first this shouldn’t be a problem.

  • Posted by

    Neither would be any fun, of course, but forced to choose between the two, I’d rather have the hard conversation with a member of my worship team.  At least there is some merit to that task--helping that team member to find a more effective place to serve AND increasing the effectiveness of the worship team.  My hope would be that my relationship with that team member would be such that, hard as the topic is to deal with, they would be mature enough and respect me enough to hear the truth in love.

    I, too, remember that Andy Griffith episode Melody mentioned--that’s one of my favorite shows!  If only life was so simple.... grin

  • Posted by Tim Stevens

    How about neither. Here is how you get rid of the off-key singer...and future off-key singers. Implement annual re-auditions. That’s right, everyone on the team has to re-audition every year. You say, “There is no guarantee you will be on the team after the first year...our cause is to important for us not to each work hard at this all the time,” yada yada.

    Then, when you determine you have a bad singer, or a good singer who has bad chemistry with the rest of the team--you only have a few months until their 1-year audition when you can gracefully let them exit!

    By the way...if it is a singer with a bad attitude, don’t wait. Talk to them, give them 1 chance to shape up, then boot them.

  • Posted by Dan Reid

    I actually had to tell some (who was a tither) that basic thing.  We were willing for her to still sing, but she wanted to be one of the lead singers.  She had a Sandi Patti voice and that didn’t fit at all.

    She didn’t like it and left.  However, it was the right thing to do.  We did it as kindly as possible.  Never easy!

  • Posted by

    I once had to tell the worship leader he couldn’t sing a solo because he hadn’t:
    1.  practiced,
    2.  informed any of the other principles that he was going to sing, and
    3.  the service had been modified to accommodate other critical reasons in the church life.
    He went to the Deacons they caved, he left, the church grew. Overall a good experience.

  • Posted by Brian

    I would tell the singer to drink the eggs & if that didn’t help their singing....they were done.

  • Posted by

    Having to build a new program, sometimes you have to take who ever volunteers, (within reason, of course) and you’re glad to get them. However, sooner or later it becomes necessary to let certain individuals know their skills have not progressed with the development of the rest of the team.  You appreciate their service, but it might be time to take a look at other ministry opportunities.

    Drinking raw eggs? Yuck! I like mine cooked. Plus, you still have to face the situation, even after the eggs have had their ‘effect’ on you.

  • Posted by

    I like Brian’s idea. Have the singer drink the eggs...Man I need to be more creative.

  • Posted by

    I think it’s sad that anyone would say they don’t mind off-key singers on a worship team.  That’s the attitude that causes most of the world (and a lot of Christians) to see Christian music and worship music as a joke.  God gave us music, and we have in a lot of cases done a really pathetic job of honoring that gift, because we’re not willing to work as hard at what we do as the rest of the world is.  If anything, we should be leading the rest of the world in this area, but instead we choose to follow.  And usually we follow so far behind that it’s laughable.  Just my two cents (I’m a worship leader).

  • Posted by

    Wow Ryan, can you take a joke, or do you lack the intuitive discernment needed for such a thing? Ha ha, anyway being a worship leader I to have had this situation happen and sometimes they leave and others they work at it and sometimes they find a different ministry to help in. but mostly we worship leaders think we are really better than we are, and the reason we are “behind” is because we deal with volunteers and pure hearts of average or below talent which still must be recognized.  and raw eggs would be extra nasty if you are not in a “Rocky’ mood.

  • Posted by

    wow.  i wasn’t really excecting to have mud slung at me so early today.  good thing i missed my shower this morning…

    my point was simply that i find that many churches, in order to let people “serve” and “feel a part of something” have a tendency to allow people to be a part of worship teams when maybe those people should be encouraged to find their gifting elsewhere. 

    i have never, and will never, believe that allowing one person to feel useful is more improtant than the quality of worship we offer to our Lord and that we invite our congregations to be a part of.  i’m sorry if you feel i “lack discernment,” but i’ve seen too many really talented people walk away from using their gifts for God, because they feel that worship music is a joke.  it’s one thing if you have no other options that to use less talented players/singers.  i’ve been there.  but my point is that we should strive to be as excellent as possible with what we have to work with, and we should never have an attitude of brushing these things under the rug, or saying. “well. it’s not about how good it is...this is church, not a rock concert.” well, here’s a thought...if we’re going to model our worship after the music of the world (not saying this is good or bad, but it’s a fact for many churches), is it okay for the world to care more about what they do than for us to care about what we do?  i’ve heard too many people with that attitude, and i feel like it does an injustice to the gift that God has given us.  You wouldn’t want your pastor to just allow anyone to walk up onstage and give the message would you?  i feel like what we do is just as important.  people remember the words to their favorite worship songs long after they’ve forgotten the message from that day.  don’t you think we should do everything we can to honor the responsibility that implies?

  • Posted by

    Great idea on the yearly auditions. What happens if you have to choose not to have a singer continue who is very influential with the group of people who decide what (or any) increase in salary you might get next year?

    I’d still rather drink raw eggs.

  • Posted by

    oh the joy of politics…

    church politics are one of my biggest peeves...of all places to have to worry about those issues…

  • Posted by

    Tough one.  Having been part of a worship team where anyone who wants to can sing into a microphone - having never heard them sing before - I know how frustrating this can be. I also know how distracting it can be for the rest of the church when those leading in worship really can’t sing. 

    If I were in charge, I’d have the talk… then drink the eggs so it makes the talk seem not so bad.

  • Posted by

    I tried the former and it did not go so well. The worship singer ended splitting and destroying the church. I will take a glass of raw eggs any day of the week.

  • Posted by

    I’d take the eggs, make a great omlet and invite the “singer” over.  Then tell them that we will be singing duets from now on and that will take care of the problem.  My singing is so bad no one will want to sing with me.

  • Posted by

    Richard, your situatiion reminds me that we have to make sure our singers know the reason we sing is to lead the congregation in worship of our magnificent God and Savior, Jesus. It’s too bad that your singer was more concerned with her position on the praise team and not her function. 

    I often pray that that our team be invisible in order that the Savior be seen. That helps everyone stay on track. It’s also a good attitude to convey to new people coming on to the team.  Getting talented people is not as hard as getting talented people who are looking to grow in their faith and spiritual maturity.

    As worship leaders, we have to constantly be on guard that we keep our focus on loving the Lord, and not making an idol of the music we use to give Him praise.  Though it can be loads of fun and we can enjoy the music, it must never be allowed to take precedence.  How are we doing on that front?  Any one having struggles in that area?  Be honest, now.

  • Posted by Peter Hamm

    Ryan writes [I think it’s sad that anyone would say they don’t mind off-key singers on a worship team].

    And yet, some of the same people who would be angry if we just let anybody preach might sometimes think that we should let anybody sing who wants to.

    And then we wonder why talented people will go to another church. Last year, we cut the whole situation off by having auditions for the first time. To soften the blow, I didn’t use the word auditions, but that’s what they were.

    A lot of people with a “heart for worship” as a result, aren’t on one of my worship teams. It was painful. It still is. But hopefully next year when we do it again (every September we decided) it might get a little easier.

  • Posted by

    thanks peter.  i’m glad someone got where i was headed with that.

  • Posted by Brian

    Can we add something to the eggs??? Like Ketchup....It makes cooked eggs taste better.

  • Posted by Dan

    Interesting question since last week I’d much rather confront over the root canal (not that I’ve ever had a root canal, but I’ve heard enough stories).  On the other hand, even with my penchant for confrontation, this week I’d go for the raw eggs any day.  I think this is because some people are SO sensitive about their voices (in my experience...especially the ones that can’t sing!) So, pass the chicken fetuses please!  Yummm Yummmm!

  • Posted by

    Instead of removing worship team members for poor singing ability, I removed soloists from having the opportunity to sing solos in worship for the same reason. I might as well have told them that their children were ugly. Worship quality is much better; I wish I could say the same for my reputation. Depending on which church member you talk to, my capacity for compassion hovers somewhere between Hussein and Bin Laden. Pass the eggs!

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