Seems hypocritical to me. 

in his own words sounds like he is “chasing cool.”

I think that we have to be careful… While I don’t subscribe to everything he says, I think that we have to take the message itself into consideration.  I definitely didn’t agree that everything he considered to be ‘profane’ was indeed ‘profane’.  The overall idea that I am taking away from it is that we should be as intentional as possible with how we speak.  Ed Young Jr. even used what he considered to be profanities to make a point in the ‘driving’ video.  He was intentionally using those words; he counted the cost and decided that this was how he wanted to get the point across… The truth is that I have been in counseling sessions where the patient was speaking a certain way because they thought that they couldn’t be ‘real’ with a pastor.  So they didn’t truly identify their feelings or get honest about their ‘hurt’ until the pastor used some selective ‘words’ that some would deem ‘inappropriate’.  Through using those words I saw a wall drop and I saw the person get ‘honest’ and the session went better faster because the pastor took it upon themselves to better the situation with a semi-controversial (for some) method.  That definitely made me think about this argument in a different context.

I think we have to be careful about letting our personal feelings about Ed Young Jr. cloud our judgement.  It reminds me of the people who disliked George Bush so much that no matter what he said, he was wrong… He could have said 1+1=2 and there were some people who would have immediately shouted, “NO!!!” just because it was him saying it.  We don’t want to fall into that category.  I think it’s best to look at the issue itself even when it may be challenging (for some) to look past the messenger…

Can we exercise caution in mocking or even trashing Ed Young?  He did not say being cool or hip was something he was against, he said he was gainst swearing for that reason.  I assume you are all against swearing for that reason too. 

He is a brother, I would suggest we not take shots just because we can here.  This is not about a ministry evaluation, but about Ed personally as the previous 2 comments show.

Todd, why did you post this?  It seems to only serve to set up people to trash a brother.  There are not questions about ministry at the end, there are no extra thoughts you provide.  It seems a bit off from California.

This is immature, juvenile, and illustrates some degree of hypocrisy.  It’s sad to say, but this is why I have a tough time reconciling the word, “Pastor,” next to Young Jr’s name.

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Leonard,

The reason I posted this was simple.  Ed went public admonishing pastors to not swear, totally forgetting that he just earlier opened up a can of whoop bass.  Add to that the irony of swearing to tell people not to swear.

I think Ed’s a fine leader, and Fellowship is doing great work.  I do, however, think he’s crossed the lines at least a couple times in the recent past; this being one of them; another one in telling us how many days in a row he had sex with his wife.

It’s provocative.  It gets him on CNN.  It ultimately gets him a bigger audience for his message (including here at MMI).

It’s an easy line to cross.  I’ve crossed it myself blogging a time or two.

You see, my issue isn’t really with any of the words he used, or even with the whoop bass thing; it’s the fact that you do these kinds of things then turn around and tell other pastors that they use this language to be cool or because you haven’t spent enough time in preparation.  That seems a bit duplicitous.

That’s all I’m saying. 

Todd

Again, can we try to separate the message from the messenger?  Unless we’re Jesus we all have things about us that incriminate us… Does that invalidate the gospel?  Nope.

I think that Todd does a good job with MMI and I really don’t agree with the Jerry Springer deal.

I think that we have to admit that we are all preaching a message that we have violated.  We say that lying is bad but we have all lied-does that make it wrong to say that lying is wrong?  Nope…

Let’s get real for a second and agree or disagree with the argument (and explain why and show insight), not with the person making the argument… I think that this whole thing started with the ‘controversial language’ debate and somewhere turned into the ‘Ed Young Jr.’ debate… I’m in favor of keeping it on the subject of the ‘controversial language’ debate…

Thanks Todd, I get it.  I appreciate this place you provide.

I thought it was Friday, too.

I like Ed, but I think he taught me here to never post anything on YouTube.

First of all, what’s wrong with being juvenile every now and then?

Second of all, haven’t we all done stupid things that we regret later?

Third of all, how can you say words are words are “trivial”?  They absolutely are not trivial. 

My thoughts (and yes I’m echoing what Ed said in video #1 which, contrary to popular MMI comment world belief does not mean I want to A. marry him B. worship him or C. become him)...we could be a lot more creative and a lot less crass.

Does that mean I said ‘amen’ last week when my dog took off after a rabbit and my fingers got caught in the rope she was tied to?  Nope:) Does that mean when my mother calls me a little sh#$ in her endearing and hilarious way I want to punch her in the mouth?  Nope:)

Thanks for the videos Todd!

It would be interesting to know the ages of the posters who are critical of Ed’s videos.  I have caught myself saying “sucks” when peaking and have to apologize.  Guys like Driscoll, Lamb, Furtick and other have somewhere gotten the idea that you have to be abrasive and crass when you preach the gospel.

Too much scripture that warns to watch what we say and how we say it for guys to be using words when they teach that you wouldn’t want other men using around your kids and wives.

I think there is a difference in making a stupid video like Ed did and standing before people with God’s Word in your hand and using some of the language that is being used.

i really like this post thanks!

Blue Eyes